Dr. Who

Some folks are under the impression you only looked at one game. I've yet to see a really compelling counter-argument to your points.

Sorry, I don't recollect. I read somewhere else a family friend helped him get a spot on a team, but I don't know if that was Wyoming or the small college he started at.

Some show one ESPN highlighting draft prospects indicated he e-mailed lots of Div 1 College coaches hoping to get an offer to play qb for them.

Josh Allen sent e-mails to many college programs and never garnered any interest. Both he and Mayfield are the fellas with an edge and chip on their shoulders. Marry that to talent, and you can get good results. I like them both and think either would fit well with McD, though Allen will need more time to develop.

Dorian O'Daniel is a fella I kinda like. Anyone have any notion what rounds this group is likely to go in?

The mailmen know

Hmm. I didn't know about the steamed cabbage . . .

I heard he was just crazy about cribbage.

Passion is equivocal. I think for the most part, Mayfield channels his into excellent performance on the football field. No qb in the draft is without some question marks. I think Mayfield has a higher floor than Allen, for instance, and a pretty high ceiling. I'd be happy taking him, though I would also be very pleased to get Allen who has the highest ceiling. I've become convinced he's more likely to reach it than I initially thought.

Lol, now I really want us to draft him.

And too many people look at a fella like Allen and instead of making a discerning judgment on the unique person, simply give one a litany of past failures: Kyle Boller, Jake Locker, EJ, etc. as if identifying a broadly construed "type" is sufficient to determine a future destiny.

Paragraphs are your friend^^^^ and yes, I like Allen.

Dear Lfod, Thanks, but I'm an inanimate, conceptual object and I can't read.

I dunno, I feel like you are calling me a relic

Don't see the Jets taking Allen. I think the owner and new GM in Cleveland may value Allen. I don't think Hue Jackson will determine that pick. Giants may reasonably think they are unlikely to be at 2 again any time soon and it is a good opportunity to draft Eli's eventual successor. If Elway sees himself in Allen, he may pull the trigger. Of course, this is all speculation.

Still think the Browns might like him and are okay with Tyrod for a year or two. Giants might take him with Eli starting for a year or two. Broncos have Keesum who could start for a couple of years. It's all guesswork and he might fall, but I think his potential will induce a high pick from someone.

Well, it's a gamble, but he won't be there late first, so you either overdraft because you think he isn't another Boller, Gabbert, etc. or you pass on him.

I agree.

Just shush. No jinxes, please.

Go look at Bandit's analysis on Allen. I think he has real potential to be very good, and I was not sold on him at the beginning.

Hope you're right.

Bandit's analysis is strong, imo, and the Wunderlic score suggests he's smart enough to improve.

I think they go Allen, but I'd be okay with either. I'm actually starting to like Allen more than I did.

He might be, but the Browns could take him 1 overall; Giants could conceivably take him. I doubt he falls. You probably need to swing a deal for 2 to get him if Cleveland goes with Darnold.

I'll go on record as disagreeing with OP. Does anybody care?