Dr. Who

If Jeffismagic was banned or suspended for bringing Mahomes up in many threads last year (and at least they were promoting the fella,) this constant bashing of Rosen ought to qualify for some kind of response. It's really unseemly.

If we end up with Rosen and Roquan, I'm going out and buying a lottery ticket.

DJ Chark on a rookie contract is the kind of receiver we need.

Darnold is creative when the pocket breaks down and is durable. The concerns about personality with Rosen are overblown, but I don't think Darnold has any of those question marks. Rosen has injury concerns and poor pocket awareness. You can easily make a case in the other direction, but it's not patently ridiculous to favor Darnold.

Coincidentally, I would still want single malt scotch and bocce pizza.

Single malt scotch, bocce pizza, and alone time with my security blanket.

5 ways are just a little too kinky, imo.

Seriously, don't even say it. It's like the announcer jinx when a fella has made thirty free throws in a row or something.

I like him. Should be a lot of fun here if we trade up to get him

Best case scenario, provided we beef up the oline and are confident about the durability issues.

Well stated. Btw, though I like the current avatar, I miss Spock.

Yes, I agree with much of this, but one has to hope the current regime can develop a qb or there is little room for optimism.

Wrong.

Darby did not fit the system. I don't think he was a locker room problem. Watkins may have been a problem, but I think they surmised they would not be willing to pay the requisite price to resign him to a new contract and the 2nd round pick was valuable as draft capital to trade up for the potential franchise qb you don't want to trade up for. Regardless, none of that bears on whether or not they have determined Rosen to be a fit or not.

I surmise he is inferring Watkins and Darby were traded because they didn't fit in with the Process culture and that Rosen would not either. Speculation based on not much.

I know. In another thread, I indicated that I thought durability concerns were genuine. The rest is overblown to the point of hyperbole. Bringing up Kaepernick is not relevant, imo. If Kaepernick was a top 5 qb in the league, he would be employed.

If one of the big 4 slides to 12, they would be foolish not to take them imo, but then again, I don't have the research they do, so I am not as cognizant of off-field issues that may play into their thinking.

I'm inclined to agree with your surmise. I would pass on Rudolph before round 2. As I've said elsewhere, might as well wait and take a flier on White or Lauletta, but that's a failed draft given their aspirations for a potential franchise qb. I also prefer Darnold because I think there is less risk there and a high ceiling, though Allen will be the best if he realizes his ceiling.

That's possible, but it only helps us if we are in on one of the fellas that is dropping.

True or not, that's a plausible take. I hope they are able to move up, because settling for a Day 2 guy is not very appealing.

Right, but trading Alex Smith would also seem to indicate their faith in Mahomes is genuine, misplaced or not.

It was rumored Whaley wanted to take a qb. I think he liked Mahomes, but no way to verify.

I argued for Mahomes a lot and Watson some last year. Just increases the pressure to get a franchise qb in this draft. I really doubt Mahomes is going to fail, but you need both he and Watson to turn out poor to mediocre for passing on them not to be a factor in judging the acumen of the present regime, though Whaley's status and the flux of new folk are perhaps mitigating factors as well.

I dunno, everyone's so stupid here, maybe nobody will get your point

Yeah, that's all cogent. I am willing to gamble more, because I think Allen could be exceptionally good. The development structure would have to be in place and I think you are right to question whether it is. I'd also be happy getting Rosen or Mayfield at 7 and keeping 22.