Dr. Who

Do we really have any clear idea who the Browns are taking at 1? Who are we likely targeting at 2?

I prefer Darnold, but I like Baker, too. I just haven't gotten much of an impression that we are looking at him.

I agree with this, though I would trade up to 2 for Darnold.

I prefer Allen, even though it's obviously a gamble. Beane isn't going to risk his job on a fella if our braintrust doesn't have a strong feeling Allen is a good risk.

So he's on Mayfield's list . . .

Really hope it works out this way . . . and completely off-topic, but damn, Kay Adams looks cute in a cowboy hat.

I think this is true, but I had not really considered the Broncos at 5 as a team that would move up. Seems to me that complicates calculations if they are a player.

You think the timing of all this is coincidental?

It should blow over if common sense comes into play. If Allen drops because of the twitter thing, the organization that leaked it wins and I don't think that ought to be rewarded.

Really depressing. We will be fighting to get the fourth of the top 4. I like Allen, however, so I wouldn't be angry unless we miss out on all of them.

I would take Darnold at 2 if Browns do not choose him. I hope that is the play if we trade up that high.

Definitely a Browns' fan.

Darnold is not nearly as polished as Rosen right now. If you think his issues are correctable (I do,) one could counter that Darnold is creative and skilled when the pocket breaks down -- which it frequently does in the pros. Rosen is great if you can keep him upright in a clean pocket. He's tough, too, but has poor pocket awareness and an injury history that puts his durability into question.

I think you are in the minority regarding his qb ability. Time will tell if you are right.

I really don't see how you have concluded Darnold is a "game manager" qb. I don't mind Rosen, but Darnold has a higher ceiling, more durability, and I think a relatively high floor.

What would be even better is if the Bills could trade up to 2 and draft Sam Darnold.

Racial issues are always sensitive and difficult. It was a dopey comment and now Allen will have to go out of his way to show he is a decent fella, but bottom line is he was a kid and someone with ulterior motives is exploiting the situation. It's unfortunate. This is what you said about Sony Michel's bone on bone issue being brought up just now: "Yeah night before the draft leaks start, sabatoging starts. Worst part of this process." No doubt, there is a big difference between a health problem and unpleasant immaturity, but the underlying rationale for why it is out there remains the same. The perpetrators of the initial act ought not to be rewarded and some commonsense forgiveness of youthful indiscretion (this means allowing for the likelihood that the fella isn't a closet Klan member) should be the default position.

It's really loathsome the way individuals are subjected to malicious hyperscrutiny if it happens to somehow result in advantage for someone else. Happens in politics, sports, private life. Our technology has led to a deep level of corruption that utterly lacks compassion or common decency.

Right, but as you know it is practically the only path to get a franchise qb . . . I will be thrilled if the end result of all this is Darnold in Buffalo.

What is the putative price, exactly? I really like Darnold.

If you mean 12, 22, and next year's first for 4, I'm passing on that.

Well, Darnold is my favorite, but it's unlikely we will have a shot at him. If Beane thinks Allen needs two years, I don't think he will be considered.

Then you only want Rosen or Mayfield. Everyone else needs time to develop. I think that's very short-sighted.

Why can't he sit behind McCarron for a year? We're not going to the Super Bowl next year.

Shouldn't this be in the politics forum?