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This is a fairly persuasive argument. I think you sign a veteran qb to be a mentor, especially if you don't really have a proven qb coach. The poster who goes by 716 is insightful and he strongly asserts that Culley is a sound coach, but I am still skeptical about a fella who basically coached wr most of his career. Regardless, it would be nice to have the situation the Chiefs had where you have a solid veteran in Alex Smith that will allow a redshirt year and then the vet qb becomes a tradeable asset. That is a rare situation. The qbs you mentioned were the only truly plausible starter vets out there and the cost was largely prohibitive. In retrospect, aggressively going after Bridgewater would have made sense, but no one could know ahead of time if he was healthy. In the end, we are pretty much where all the other teams with first round qbs are (excluding the Ravens.)

This is a credible argument if you think Allen is a rational pick (I do.) When you are arguing with a fella whose subtext is always that Allen is likely to bust, the underlying presupposition tends to color the overall assessment.

John Wawrow posted something to the effect that they do understand the nature of the offensive deficiencies and that they will be addressed in the offseason. I don't think they want to win grind it out games. I believe they will get the offseason with an improved salary cap situation to prove themselves.

I am comfortably in the Get off my Lawn Club. I am skeptical this regime knows what to do in order to rebuild the offense. I give Daboll somewhat of a pass because he has so little to work with. Castillo doesn't seem good to me. I'm sorry Kromer could not be persuaded to stay. I think they get this offseason to turn the offense around. It will have to show significant improvement, imo, or someone is walking the plank. I like Allen if he has good coaching and the right pieces around him to help him develop.

If Bruce Arians doesn't want to coach, he'd be perfect for the consultant role.

We have the least amount salary invested in offensive line by any team in the NFL and it's not really close. Lots of upgrades needed, but oline has to be much better if significant improvement is going to be possible.

Wawrow's a straight shooter. This is good news.

That's the minimal talent upgrade on O -- they really need considerably more, including a rb under thirty who is good.

Coaching and surrounding talent. We barely have a crumb on offense outside of an aging Shady. I argued for Mahomes and Watson, especially Mahomes. No one was more vociferous than Jeffismagic and he was hounded off the boards here for crusading. That said, I also like Allen, but the incompetence of this regime with regards to offense is literally historic.

I agree with this, so there was some hyperbole when I said he is not a starter level NFL qb.

I got a number of folks riled up, apparently. I am not addressing whether Kaepernick is better than Peterman or Anderson. My next door neighbor's dog is arguably better than poor Nate Peterman. I spoke to the inordinate attention given to a player I personally judge to be not a starter level NFL qb. The attention given to him nationally has much to do with his media image and what he stands for ideologically. Nike didn't sign him to do a commercial because of his playing ability. If some of you fellas want him to play for the Bills, more power to you. Regardless of his numbers during his last stint as a player, I believe he is not worth the headache. No one is going to rescue this season. Allen will improve (I think he can given adequate players around him and competent coaching) or the next regime will be drafting his replacement.

The love affair is political. It has nothing to do with a rational evaluation of his actual football talent.

Excellent post. Randy Smith was a master of the steal. He was my favorite player as well.

Only the jerks are rooting for him to do poorly. That's different from concluding he doesn't have the skill set to be an NFL qb. I think he's out of the league after this year. I certainly hope he has a good game or at least a decent game so he has a few good memories from playing here. I think it would be near miraculous for him to become a competent backup. Great if it happens.

I guess they had two color schemes. Black and orange and Columbia blue and orange. (Just googled it.) Totally agree about the roster. Jack Ramsey was always articulate and erudite and wore incredibly loud pants. Those were indeed fun times.

Nothing cooler than powder blue and orange uniforms.

Russian Imperial Stout sounds great; with peanut butter and marshmallow does not. I'd put in on a shelf for decor and leave it there.

The reasoning was given in the post you are replying to.

Was it addressed to Spartacus?

At the top of the draft, I think you take elite talent over need. But if this team doesn't use the bulk of its resources in the draft and free agency to upgrade offensive talent this off-season, there is a problem imo.

I am somewhat more optimistic, but this is an example of a well-argued opinion that does not insult folks who think otherwise. Thanks for the effort.

I don't know, but I have a feeling if McDermott goes down, the Pegula's may try to bring in a football czar ala Coughlin with the Jags to sort things out. Not sure who would be considered, but there must be some old, crusty fellas who qualify.

I think he's gone if that is the case.

I don't like the blowout losses. Given the historic ineptitude of the offense, I imagine more lopsided losses are likely. I still think he gets the off-season and next year to right the ship.

Yeah, but other than that, it's exactly like Rex.