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Personally spending 40-50 million on 5 guys on the online to me is a better investment than paying a single elite WR 35 million a year. But I know everyone has different team building philosophies. Josh Allen threw for 400-4500 yards a year when he had an elite high paid WR in Diggs. This year I expect he will still throw for the same amount of yards it will just be split amongst more guys. If we had Jefferson and chase on the team I don’t think Josh Allen suddenly stars throwing for 5000 yards I think it ends up like the dolphins where hill and waddle get all the catches and yards and no one else gets any. To me having a top online and dline with numerous solid consistent guys at the playmaker position will get us farther than a couple of elite wr

Brown is one of the most athletic tackles in the league and still only 26 years old. I get he isn’t a star WR or DL but he is young and still developing and can be a top RT in the NFL. A lot of people also keep commenting on the young pipeline of OL. I am excited for those players as well but none of them have started an NFL game. To just say we would replace Brown with one of them is a bit of a stretch and exactly what people are crying about this year and that we filled out WR and Safety group with a bunch of unproven guys. We now have the opportunity to keep our entire starting OL and depth together for the next next 2-3 years. We have a ton of picks available next year and without having to invest picks in the OL you can use them to get impact playmakers

I think it’s a pretty big upgrade over last year. Settle and phillips sucked last year. Carter is a fairly high draft pick who was productive in college and Johnson is an experienced 55 game starter.

There really isn’t a bad seat. Everyone has their own preference. I personally like the 300 level as close to the 50 as possibly. Incredible view of the entire field

I think the bills will be fine with the wr group they have but this season feels much like the 2019 season setting up for a splash at the position next year. I do think this group has much more depth than we every have had 2019 WR/TE group: John brown (averaged 586 yards per season prior) Cole Beasley (averaged 467 yards per season prior) Mckenzie (averaged 98 yards per season prior) knox (Rookie) duke williams (Rookie) robert foster (541 yards rookie season) 2020: diggs (averaged 924 for yards per season prior) Beasley (averaged 506 for yards per season prior) brown (averaged 715 for yards per season prior) mckenzie (averaged 154 for yards per season prior) davis (Rookie) knox (388 yards rookie season) 2024: samuel (averaged 483 for yards per season prior) shakir (averaged 386 for yards per season prior) kincaid (673 rookie season) knox (averaged 393 for yards per season prior) coleman (Rookie) MVS (averaged 525 for yards per season prior) claypool (averaged 376 for yards per season prior) Hollins (averaged 281 for yards per season prior)

I am truly curious how you define number 1 wr. Is it tds, yards, targets, catches, position, or some combination of that? If Kincaid has 90 catches is he a number 1? If shakir has 1100 yards does that make him a number 1? if Coleman has 10 td is he a number 1? What if he has had 75 catches for 950 yards and 8 tds this year. Do you consider him a number 1 going into next year?

Last year our 4th/5th6th receicers combined for 26 catches for 236 yards. the combination of Hollins, MVS, and Claypool, Hamler, or Cepheus is light years better than the back end of our roster last year. Any one of those guys could likely beat that number by themselves. Yes Diggs and Davis are gone but towards the end of last year when we were winning those guys were not helping the team. Knox is back healthy, Kincaid is in year 2, and shakir is an emerging top slot wr

I think your logic here is pretty good. I think Solomon and Carter are the toughest to predict. The one I disagree in is hardy. I think he is the primary punter returner this year and a depth slot corner. In 2-3 years I could see him taking over the starting role from Johnson as he hits his 30s

I thought it would be interesting to find out to see how everyone would rank who from this draft class will have the best Buffalo bills career. My list is below 1 being the best and 10 the worst. 1. Bishop 2. Van Pran Granger 3. Coleman 4. Davis 5. Hardy 6. Carter 7. Solomon 8. Ulofoshio 9. Grable 10. Clayton

I think most of the roster is pretty much set but there will certainly be some interesting battles in camp at a few positions: Saftey- Lewis vs Hamlin LB- Jones vs Spector vs Ulofoshio for 2 spots DE- Toohill vs Jonathan Rb- Johnson’s vs Frank Gore Jr OT- Collins vs Gramble vs Doyle vs Vandermark for 2 spots IOL- Anderson vs Clapp WR- Hamler vs Shorter vs Isabella vs Shavers vs Cepheus for 2 spots

I like Ty Johnson as I said in my original post and I fully expect him to be RB3 however as you pointed out he only had 37 touches in 10 games. He was also on our practice squad for the first half of the season. I just don’t consider him a lock.

I don’t know why everyone assumes Johnson is a lock. I think he is going to be in a competion with frank gore jr for the last running back spot. He likely makes it as the 3rd rb but he has always been a journeyman RB and although I liked what he did at the end of last season people act like he accomplished way more than he actually did. his stats: 132 rushing yards, 0 TDs, 1 fumble 72 receiving yards 1 td

I’m just not seeing how everyone thinks this team is way worse than last year. In my eyes it has the potential to be better. QB- same but better depth RB- I would argue better. Murray ran out of gas last year. You add a rookie with plenty of production and have johnson looked good when he got involved at end of last season. TE- Same to better. Kincaid year 2 and Knox healthy. OL- Likely slightly worse. I don’t expect too much of a drop off. Morse is a loss but Torrance will be year 2 and brown coming off his best season. Depth should be much better. WR- Worse, there is no debating losing diggs doesn’t make us worse. Worse. We don’t have that true number 1 proven guy but shakir keeps improving and Coleman, Samuel, Hollins is way way better than Davis, Sherfield and harty. DL- Better. Yes we lost Floyd but you have Von a year removed from injury. Tohill is an upgrade to Shaq and we have a rookie coming in who had 16 sacks last year. I think it’s safe to assume he will be an upgrade over Jonathan who did nothing. At DT jones is back after missing most of last year. The 2 DT free agent signing and the rookie should be a big improvement over settle, phillips, and ford who were not good last year. LB- Better. Milano is back, Bernard year 2. Young, athletic depth. CB- I am going with same here. White has been MIA for over 2 years. We get Benford and Johnson back and we now have Douglass for a full year. Yea we lost Dane Jackson but I think getting Douglass for the offseason cancels that out. Will be nice to see Elam get more playtime he showed playmaking flashes when he was out there. S- slightly worse. Losing poyer and Hyde is tough to replace. They were aging so their impact last season wasn’t what is once was but it’s still going to hurt. I really like Bishop but I just don’t think anyone can say we would be the same or better without those guys this year

This is the siran Neal replacement with way more speed and return ability

This board: Shorter sucks (pick 15 in round 5) also this board We must take a wr at the end of round 6 or the draft is a bust! It’s comical

For everyone still going on about wr. Anyone who gets drafted now would be competing with shorter. He was the 15th pick in the 5th round but no one mentions him. the bills need another wr but they should be looking for a vet after 6/1 like chark, obj, Gallup to fill out the roster if they can’t swing a trade

how is rb not a need? We have James cook and Ty Johnson who is a journeyman type player. If cook went down you had Ty Johnson and literally nothing else

Just curious what makes a wr a number 3 in your mind vs a number 1 or 2? Is it stats, size, speed? I keep seeing people say we have a bunch of number 3 wr and I’m generally curious how they are classifying them. I know Kincaid is a TE but he will likely have 85-90 catches for 1000 yards if he was a wr would you consider him a number 1?

Personally I think the bills are still fine but they do need to double dip at WR. The one name that is never brought up on this board but maybe should be more often is Justin Shorter. I personally don’t have much faith that he will be good but Beane and the coaching staff have been around him for a full year now. He wasn’t some undrafted free agent or 7th round pick. He was taken with the 15th pick in the 5th round. He is 6’ 4 and 229 lbs and runs a 4.55. like I said I personally am not expecting much but maybe the bulls have seen enough in practice that they potentially see him as a guy that will get playtime this year. They did invest a decent asset in him

Not a trade but DJ Chark makes sense. 6-3 200lbs runs a 4.34. Give your the size speed guy then draft a player early as well. But gives you flexibility in the draft in the type of WR to draft

My prediction: Curtis samuel shakir draft pick (McConkey/Franklin) OBJ Hollins Shorter/late Rd pick/Hamler/isabella

As far as the draft goes Elam was a major miss but overall I would consider that draft a success getting Cook, Bernard, and Benford, and Shakir. As for the diggs extension he was producing at a high level and they paid him a market rate. If they would have an he would have walked or moved on then people would be upset they didn’t keep him. Yea it didn’t work out but overall at the time it seemed like a reasonable deal. Von produced when he came in and looked exactly like the player we wanted. He got hurt that’s not in Beane’s control. Jones was a very good signing and crowder was worth a swing at that price. Bates was also a fine signing you paid him about 4 million a year to compete as a starter and be a top back up plus got a 5th round pick for him. If you didn’t sign him you were getting nothing for him. Beane has some hits and misses every year like any GM as others have mentioned. Anyone who thinks ever other gm hits on all their draft picks and free agents doesn’t follow other teams at all. If anything I get Beane’s draft production is better than most in the NFL.

Not saying these guys are 1 to 1 replacements but I think they can replace the production those guys offered. I truly think Brady wants to get away from that 1a type receiver that we force the ball to and gets 160 targets. I could very well see the hall spread all over with maybe no one getting 1000 yards but 3-4 guys all getting around 50-70 catches for 900 yards. I think people are getting caught up to much on what positioning these guys play (inside/outside) Samuel, Kincaid, and Shakir can line up anywhere. Cook can split out wide and Knox is pretty versatile too. For red zone your have Knox, Kincaid and Hollins who are all big targets. I think what got us into trouble in the first half of last year was trying to force it to diggs. In the second half when diggs really didn’t look like a number 1 and they were spreading the ball around diggs, Kincaid, and Shakir all had similar numbers

Diggs is great no doubt but just looking at this Samuel should be able to put up Davis numbers pretty easily. I think kincaid could end up being close to Diggs numbers last year (maybe 90 catches for 1000). Shakir should be able to replicate Kincaid numbers from last year so you need a rookie to replace shakir’s 39 catches and 600 yards. Not really all that crazy.

I am not predicting shakir will become a number 1 but once Brady took over he had more production than diggs on less targets. Both are 5th round picks with very similair combine numbers. I could very easily see shakir getting 70-80 catches for 1000-1100 yards with more targets. Samuel will see a fair share of targets and I expect he will be more productive than Davis was Kincaid will also see more targets and I think Knox will be utilized more this year now that he is healthy. The bills offense struggled when we tried to force the ball to diggs. I think they will be much more productive spreading it around and having 4-5 wr in the 50-70 catch range for 700-1000 than 1 guy getting the bill of the targets