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Bill from NYC

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  1. He certainly does not "suck" and everyone (well everyone else I guess) knows it. He is just not a complete back. The Bills have found their complete back in Willis. Though the exaggerations that persist here regarding TH by you and VA are bordering on absurdity. It would be one thing if you guys were calling him an average back , fine whatever,  but the "no effort" , "bag of sh--", "he sucks" and the ever so popular and false "he's pouting in the locker room" comments only make you guys look like ICE in spite of the otherwise good knowledge of the game I know you guys have.

     

    It has been asked here before, but why does it always have to be Player A is god and his counterpart player B is a piece of sh-- ?  Was it Flutie/Johnson that did this? I will never understand how a Bills fan cannot even in some small way support a guy that busted his ass the whole time while here and improved every season he was here , especially in such a lost season of misery like 2003. The are LB's strewn about the league who have testified to his positive abilities and they should not be ignored. So he was not the next great Bills Rb, get over it.

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    I suppose that your post would be easier to take were it a tad less sanctimonious, but I will do the best that I can....

     

    Be a "homer" as you will. To this, I plead guilty as well. Now, look at the stats this season if you will. How many times was Drew sacked with Gump in the game as opposed to when MaGahee was in there. Now, ask yourself why, OK?

     

    Travis Gump had some great running stats for 2 seasons, this I readily admit...Why? Because teams were teeing off on Drew and the poor blocking providid to him by his OL, TEs, and yes, Travis Gump.

     

    Now, let's get to this season if we may...What is our W/L record with Travis Gump as the starter? What are the sack stats with and without Travis Gump? How many times this season did Gump fall on his stupid ass during crucial plays? How many blocks did he miss that allowed sacks? How many balls did he drop on passing plays? Did he run any wrong patterns?

     

    Please, rip my postings at your leisure. What I DO ask is that if you choose to do so, bring something to the table so that we may have some football to talk about.

  2. dude - throw him in Denver's offense and you have a 1700 yard rusher

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    Only 1,700 yards? I am thinking more in the neighborhood of 2,000 and a berth in Canton. :w00t:

    Get over it my friend. He sucks, he is out of here and we will be hard pressed to sucker someone into parting with a 6th. This MAY be possible only because he was so brain dead that he had to renegotiate a cheap contract.

    The day that Travis Gump leaves Buffalo, the Bills will be a better football team, and some parents can breathe a sigh of relief.

    Travis Henry is a bag of sh--, and a stupid one at that.

  3. No, the instances I mentioned did not have a great deal to do with the sorry play of the offense.

     

      That's why I mentioned those in particular.  Relinquishing a lead(and game) in the closing seconds twice, despite very good defensive field position?  What does that have to do with the offense?  What does giving up a score on nearly every defensive series against KC and NE have to do with the offense?

     

      Donahoe admitted this much last offseason, the team lacked mental toughness(translate:no heart), and that team includes this talented but choke susceptible defense.  Let's not forget, one of the worst performances in franchise history was just over two weeks ago, when the team had a chance to make a stand against an AFC/divisional rival and get right back into the thick of the playoff race only to fall flat on their face in stunning fashion.

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    What you you consider the major defensive problem? Coaching? Safety? Posey? Lack of pass rush?

  4. You are correct to praise Bill for correctly and fully siting the cap/Wyche issues

    which will make the Bills tend toward starting JP rather than simply reciting some false dictum that a 1st round drafted QB must start his first year.

     

    However, the cap issues (and the development issues) cut both ways and because TD re-signed Bledsoe to a deal I disagreed with it also creates some tendency to want to keep him and start him in 2005.

     

    Fortunately, reality should determine what will happen.  If JP is ready to start he will start as soon as our QB of the future is ready to do so.  If JP is not ready to start (any by this I mean that his demonstrated to Wyche primarily understanding and control of the game would result in hindering his development and that of the rest of the team) then he will sit.

     

    It strikes me that TD set up the Bledsoe deal with the plan and hope that  he would lead this team to a better performance (and it is to be hoped back then the playoffs) in 2004 and that JP would develop quickly so that at the very least he wuld pressing Bledsoe to start in 2005 even with Bledsoe doing well.  Instead, JP proving it on the practice field and in brief in game showings has been delayed by his injury (though ironically if JP played it right the injury will increase the speed of his development because it gave him a unique chance to focus on Wyche and the game).

     

    If the Bills finish 8-8 (likely) or better. there will be a balancing cap pressure to dance with the one who brung you (Bledsoe) if folks judge him as providing a better shot to win the next game than giving JP a development opportunity for the future.

     

    The thing I object to in your conclusions is the continual treatment of the outcome as a stone-cold lock which must happen.  If Bledsoe and the Bills win he starts regardless of JPs development progress or needs. If Bledsoe and the Bills lose then JP will be rushed along unfortunately regardless of his development progress or needs.

     

    Reality has provided us with a fine balance right now in that Bledsoe and the Bills are winning.  JP has been hot and cold at best in his development.

     

    I think that if the Bills implode over the next 5 games (regardless of whether its Bledsoe's fault or not), then JP is the starter (regardless of his development needs and status).

     

    If the Bills do moderately well (miss the playoffs but finish around 9-7) I think Bkledsoe starts but JP will have a definite shot and reps in pre-season next year to take the starters job.

     

    I think if the Bills run the table this year (making the playoffs or not) then Bledsoe starts in 2005 and though JP is the QB of the future the future is not now.

     

    Reality matters.

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    But FFS, Mark and ICE, I was focusing more on the issue of injuries than the salary cap. I do NOT discard the cap mind you, but I am of the strong opinion that injuries will be the deciding factor of who starts in 05.

    Again, if Willis gets hurt, I think that stats will deem Drew to be all but worthless if he has to rely on Travis Henry. (Lori, are you there to help me out?)

    That said, what about an injury to either QB?!?!

    Again, we can fret about this, but imo, the story will play itself out and injuries will, in all probability, will be the deciding factor.

  5. Injuries will probably play a part in who the starter will be, and by this I mean injuries not just to Drew and JP.

    For instance, if Willis is injured, I think that they would be better off going with JP. People talk about Drew's record as a Bill. Fair enough. What is the Bills' record with Travis Henry at rb? Better yet, what is Drew's record this season with and without Travis? How about sack totals? JP, despiite his inexperience, is more prepared to run for his life than Drew. He may as well play if Henry plays or CV for instance is injured.

     

    In the offseason, I have been screaming for OL picks since I arrived at TBD. I will continue to do so, but I also hope that they grab a RB in this draft. The thought of Henry coming in to replace an injured Willis is too frightening. He would never say it, but my money says that Drew would agree.

  6. I am so glad that I'm a Bills fan tonight.

     

    After all of the wall-to-wall coverage regarding the resignation/firing/who-gives-a-crap-he's-gone of Butch Davis, I'm ready for good news and stimulating conversation, since the Bills have won five of their last seven and McGahee is emerging as a bona-fide star. 

     

    People in Cleveland love the Browns, as is well known around the country.  When even Carmella DeCesare (Jeff Garcia's girlfriend and the Playboy Playmate of the Year) has a significant role on one of the local pre-game shows, you know people are either dying for inside info, have absolutely nothing better to do, or are trying to get a glimpse of Carmella...well, you know (and yes, it's the same station where that anchorwoman took all her clothes off for that group photo shoot in Cleveland some months back).

     

    There were a LOT of people in Cleveland in a bad mood today.  Many thought Butch was the answer four years ago (I was one of them).  I can't help feeling that Butch Davis quit on his team, with five games to go, solely to return to the college game.  He will be at Florida in a few weeks.

     

    The only thing of note here:  Terry Robiske was named the interim head coach.  He is the first black head coach in Cleveland Browns history.

     

    Mike

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    Well, I think that I speak for everbody here when I say that we are glad that you chose to support the Buffalo Bills and post on TBD.

    I lived in Queens for 34 years. I too know how it feels to be abandoned by a football team.

  7. Team one is 5-6. They have a rookie qb taking his lumps behind an offensive line that is bad and getting worse every day. A veteran sits on the bench.

    They have an over-rated RB, who is compiling yardage as his team flounders (we used to have one of those ) :doh: . To be fair, Team one also has crippling injuries on defense. Their coach is in his first year with the team.

    They, after a great start are clearly a team on decline.

     

    Team two is also 5-6. They are going with a veteran qb as the prized but untested rookie sits. They have a tremendous running back and he and the qb play behind an OL that seems to improve almost every week. Team two, is beating up some good football teams. Their defense, after losing two key players, is almost healthy.

    They, after a horrid start, are clearly a team on the rise.

     

    Obviously, I refer to the giants and the Bills., and I am trying to make the following points:

    1) Drew has not changed. His OL has. It is not yet a great unit (which admittedly Drew seems to need), but Tucker is an upgrade and MW is looking much better.

    2) Willis MaGahee is a difference maker. The W/L record and sack stats after Henry was benched are staggering.

    3) As much of a longshot as it is, if the Bills stay healthy, they just might make a run at a wild card, who knows?

    It probably wont happen, but it felt good just to type that in.

    GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. My only real objection is your move to cut Pat Williams. That guy is 1/4 of the reason why our defense is so good, we cut him and our defense just becomes above average instead of #2 in the league.

     

    No, we need Pat.

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    I dont think that they lose much now when Edwards comes in, let alone next season when PW is a year older and RE is a year more experienced.

    PW makes big dollars, and it remains to be seen exactly what he would command from other teams.

    As far as him being 1/4 of the reason our defense is so good, that is a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you say? :doh:

  9. and that is why a team under you will never succeed. if a season is over ( and it will be with 7 losses) then you start preparing for the future.

     

    Understand this folks, we drafted a QB in the first round. That means you have chosen him to be your Franchise QB.  To have him sit is NOT going to develop him.

     

    Look at Carson Palmer. The guy sat all year last year...he is now developing. I can tell you right now SanDiego screwed the pooch taking a QB. Brees is now a 3rd year starter. he is NOW doing the things a 3RD YEAR STARTER should do. Read defenses better etc.  What SD should have done was take the stud LT that came out or given Brees even more help in some other area.

     

    Sitting a QB doesn't help him develop.  Now if you want to trade him and get some other 3rd, 4th, 5th round QB in here and send him to NFLE in the offseason for experience then fine. But you can't do that with a 1st round QB. too much money invested.

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    You raise a valid point, but your logic is far from fool proof.

    Just look at the lions and little Joey Harrington.

  10. His stats on Sunday were 0-1-0. I for one do not care, and even think that he, stats notwithstanding, played a good game.

    He has been holding his own against all time greats, such as Ogden, Jones and my favorite, Pace.

    If we are to beat the phish on sunday, he will be a major factor imo. This will be a good chance for him to beat up on lesser competition. I am thinking that he will rise to the challenge and be credited with at least 2 sacks. His play will make things easier for our very strong DTs to penetrate, and knock Freeley into next week.

    I am looking for a 6 sacks from our defense.

    GO AARON!!!!!!!!!!!GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. I'm guessing the biggest fraud will be whoever ends up winning the NFC West and actually moving on into the playoffs. I think all four of those teams would be 4-12, 5-11 at best in the AFC. 

     

    The AFC East has gone 10-2 against that division so far. They've outscored them 336-190, and this is with our worst club (Miami) having played all four games already. Outside of Miami, the AFC East is 8-0 with every game won by 8 points or more.

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    Wow, great work. I cannot argue with this, but imo the jests are a fraud as well.

  12. i think your point is moot because i see the market for henry starting at a 2nd rounder.......

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    The Bills will do well to get a 6th for Henry. I wouldn't quite call him a cancer, but the Bills sucked this season with him in the lineup.

    If they get no takers on a trade for him, I hope that he is cut. He has not helped the Buffalo Bills football team one iota this season, unless one heaps praise on falling on ones' ass, missing blocks, running wrong patterns and dropping easy passes.

    Me, I would prefer the 1 mil cap space.

  13. Not quite. 

    ICE originally predicted 11-5 for the season.  :doh:

    And some of you call him negative? :lol:

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    Sure. When any of his predictions go down the tubes, as is usually the case, he merely takes an opposite view and claims to have been "right."

    As for now, he is predicting that it "wont be easy" for the Bills to run the table. Brave stance, no? :w00t:

  14. Miami is a W if we are not too cocky.

     

    cleveland putting up 50+ points? CRAZY!  I say they shot their wads yesterday. Win at home

     

    Cinci on the road.  I don't like it. They are starting to play well AND are the only ones in quite some time to give Pitt all it can handle. Don't know about this game.

     

    @ San Fran? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAAHA!  Ok ok, don't underestimate SF...snicker.....

     

    and lastly Pitt.  sorry folks, the only way Cowher power sits his starters, and his jaw, is if NE drops 2 by then. Not gonna happen. They will be playing for HOA throughout the playoffs.

     

    4-1 at best, 3-2 with losses to Cinci on the road and Pitt at home being more realistic.

     

    8-8 on the season is my best guess.

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    Thanks ICE. Most of us thought it would be easy. Looks like you will be "right" yet again!

    Care to tell us if we will beat the phins with Bledsoe on sunday, or are you too scared to go out on such a giant limb? :doh::w00t:

  15. running game sets up the passing game . whenWM is geting the ball ,even when he is not gaining a lot,the D has to respect him . that helps drew . i feel the play calling helped assdrew . 3 int----- he is lucky they did not hurt us .drew is not the future . verry happy for the win

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    Well you do sound thrilled. :blush:

    How does ICE afford to keep you on his payroll? :)

  16. I think you can give Drew a game ball today too, despite 3 picks.  It wasn't until the 2nd half that WM picked up steam.  We built the lead on Drew's arm in the first half.  The picks were almost a byproduct of a mad passing attack.

     

    Drew is starting to look like the Bledsoe of early 2002.  Could he be finally waking from a 2+ year coma?  Is Sam Wyche finally making a difference?  Also, if DB continues on a tear, is he the QB for 2005?  You can't judge much from JP Losman's two appearances, but to me he just does not look ready to start.

     

    PTR

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    Well said Promo, and you deserve a ton of credit for posting honestly about a man you have blasted.

    Hey, I have posted more than my share of complaints about Mike Williams, but he was just great yesterday and I hope he continues to do so and go to the Hall of Fame.

    The bottom line is that we want the Bills to win more than to be "right" in some abstract way on a message board.

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