Bill from NYC
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Please excuse my misread. I'd hate to see some of the great bets that we'd had over time lost because of opportunistic Trolls. The forum lends itself to that type of interaction between Bill's fans and our guests here from other teams when both parties are contributive. I can appreciate your issue with the timing.
Never mind Bro. I would however like to see you chime in on this thread. Do you think that Henry will be here in 05 under any conditions?
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There's hardly any "disaster", what there is is an attempt by a Troll to take advantage of the August data situation by lying about some bet he offered that was never accepted and another Troll to follow his lead. I have no problem with any other poster who feels they would stand by while a Pat's Troll lies about the record and adds in the garbage about "leaving the poor Children's Charity" unfounded, but that's hardly something this poster will sit back and allow. You might not like it, but let me remind you that YOU'RE not the one they've spread the lies about. I've asked that the record be reviewed. I trust it's being taken care of.
AKC, certainly you do not think that I was attacking you, nor taking the side of these people against you, right? You and I go back many years, and I think as much of your posts as anybody on the board.
I merely though that making a "bet" today would be a bad idea after yesterday.
This aside, I am sorry that my post was such that it lent itself to be misinterpreted.
My mistake.
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Bill, I agree that he was just awful this year. I know he blew a pair of calls in a new offense(one of them a difficult trickplay) but my biggest problem with him was his regression in blitz pick-up. If he can put back on some of the weight he took off, I think it would go a long ways towards solving that problem. And if he "can" solve that problem, I have no problem with him serving as Willis' experienced back-up for next year.
Could you stomach him in that role or do you just want him out of here post haste?
Cya
My friend, I want to be delicate here because I was rightly accused of being too harsh and even personal with my comments on Travis.....
I dont think the weight is the issue wrt his lack of blocking. Thurman weighed at least 20 pounds less and could stand guys up as a pass blocker. Again, imo, Henry either doesn't want to block, or he cannot figure out how nor who to block. Perhaps a combination of both but neither of these possibilities are good for the Bills.
Although I still like Drew as a QB, I cannot admit fast enough that he has more needs than other qbs. He needs a burner at wr. This is proven. He needs a good pocket. This is proven. The games starting with Ariz. has imo also proved that he needs a back who can pick up the blitz. Teams come after him. If he is protected, he CAN throw bombs to Evans, etc.
I would rather see if a 5th or so could be salvaged. Maybe TD could use it to scoot around the draft and find a RB that he covets....one who is more suited to this football team.
Just my $.02, and thanks for the great conversation.

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'cuz a 3-4th round draftpick has about a 30% chance of panning out, while Travis' history tells us he has about a 90% chance of being a dynamite back-up.
I just don't see the value of a pick that mayormaynot work out being as great as the value of a back who you know is going to work out, particularly when you intend to make a run at the big prize. The upside is minimal while the downside could be crushing.
Cya
Simon, after the "betting" disaster yesterday, I think an internet wager is a bad idea, so let me just say that as a Bills fan, I have never been as certain of a personnel move as I am with this one, SO.....here is my open declaration:
If Travis Henry is on the Buffalo Bills roster to start the 05 season, I will buy you the beer of your choice, and publically proclaim on TSW that I know nothing about football.
If he is not, you owe me absolutely nothing. OK?

The choice will be a banged up, limited player vs. approx. 1 mil cap space and perhaps a draft choice.
That sir, represents NO choice (in my respectful opinion).
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>>>When he's healthy Henry is easily a top 10 running back in this league<<<
Not even close. Although he is a strong runner, he might truly be the most limited running back I have ever seen. He cannot block, cannot catch, is mentally challenged, lacks breakaway speed, and falls down (sometimes untouched) on critical plays.
Imo, a huge chunk of the reason for the Bills winning streak was getting Travis Henry off of the football field.
Posters come here and complain about the won-loss records of Bledsoe and TD, and for valid reasons. With Henry as the starter, the Bills are consistent losers. A poster stated that Bledsoe was sacked 21 (out of his total of 31) times in games that Henry started. Do you think that GMs will turn their backs on this and give us MORE than teams paid for Dillon and Faulk?
If the Bills can get a 4th round pick for Henry, they would be very lucky.
As for getting another back, I think the draft is the way to go. A quality backup RB can almost certainly be found in later rounds.
On a final note, if you are looking for a scapegoat for the Bills having to struggle for a playoff spot, look no further than Henry sliding on his ass on critical plays and missing key blocks.
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I agree with your post. Imo, Bledsoe, especially taking the weather into account (since the ariz. game) is playing well both actually and statistically.
As for Harvey's point about the TE thing, here is my take.....
The Buffalo Bills TE situation almost mirrors that of their offensive line. Both have been horrid for 9 or 10 years. Imo, Pete Metz was the most unappreciated Bill since I have been a Bills fan.
Not only did he block like an OT, he was murder in the red zone. He would run those end zone patterns and just turn around. He was SO big and wide, Kelly would just heave a fastball to the upper middle of his body, and Pete would catch the football in his hands with his elbows out. How does one defend this????
Since then, we have suffered through Lonnie, Riemersma, and other horror shows. Finally, we get production from 2 football players at TE and they are both hurt. This sucks, but we must play around it.
Btw, I like Euhus, and think that McNally will help him learn to block. He can already catch and run nice patterns.
The Bills are, and will continue to be an interesting football team.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I find it odd that the theme of your post seems to be letting things die, but you then cast yourself in the light of a wounded victim, who is unwilling to do the same.
What's up with that?


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Why would this even come into question? Is this another strain of the "we have not beat great teams, therefore Drew sucks" rhetoric? Yikes!!!
I dont wish the steelers harm, but if they sit their players who are nicked up and the game means nothing to them, hurray for us, no?

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That is a valid question.
Either way, we would be eaten alive by the steelers with Henry in there. He cannot pick up blitzes, and Bledsoe would be toast.
Running wrong patterns, dropping easy passes and falling down in front of 3 feet wide holes might not help either.
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My vote goes to Travis Henry, for no longer being on the field to lose football games for the Buffalo Bills.
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When I think about it, I know quite a few republicans that would have voted for the democrat candidate, if they thought he was a viable candidate- they were not really pro-Bush.
Last time the Democrats got a guy in office, it was a man from a red state, who garnered a conservative base.
That being said, I think what the election was is the conservatives overcoming the vocal minority, which is the liberals.
Anyone agree or disagree- I expect some very interesting opinions.
I am not sure exactly what you mean, but I will offer my $.02.
The dems are in a sad state of affairs. Look at the 9 idiots they lined up in the primary, and then find me one attractive candidate in the bunch. Around the country, they lost congressional seats, senate seats and governorships. Do you think this was an accident.
In the dem party, for every Mickey, who is sane, pragamatic and wants to make sense, there is a budsload of rule making, life controlling nut jobs that care more about whales, seals, smoking in bars and not eating meat than they do about issues that matter.
The dems have a base of African-American voters, this I admit. Thier Hispanic base is sketchy, and the traditional Jewish base seems to be at long last shrinking.
Almost all union bosses vote for dems, who take their votes for granted and give them NAFTA in return. Oh, did I fail to mention the Hollywood elitists such as wife beating Sean Penn, and Chelsea Clinton's pal Madonna?
I am thinking African-Americans cast almost the same number of votes for Kerry as did Whites. Where are the AA senators and congressman? Answer: Few exist, because white liberals want to lead them by the nose and again, take their support for granted. Republicans, according to Dick Morris, devote little resources to getting AA votes because of the near certain futility. This is a state of affairs that concerns me.
The dems will continue to flounder as long as their party is viewed by voters, or is in fact energized and controlled by the nut jobs who were demonstrating at the convention and draining us of our police resources, this in a time of terrorist threat.
Also, dems lose the presidency when they tell the truth. I point to Mondale, Dukakis and McGovern as examples. In this election, they put forth another tactic....a candidate who stood for absolutely nothing.
Ques: Senator Kerry, are you for or against gay marriage?
Ans: Yes.
It wasn't going to fly.
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you are correct. Drew has been awesome over the last few games.

good thing the Bills didn't have to move more than 10 yards to score.
SF will beat the Bills if the offense plays as it did against Bengals. Bengals were blitzing to stop the run and the offensive braintrust had no trust to let Drew throw the ball to exploit the weakness.
I am hoping that for your sake as a person, there is something you can enjoy other than hating Drew Bledsoe.
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I'd just like to say hello to everybody here at 2 bills drive...ive been coming to this site for a couple years now..and i'd just like to say that this is by far one of the best fan sites around..
This site has good people, and a ton of decent insight and information..I hope I can contribute just as good as everybody on here..
Soo then to start off my first topic of my tenure here..
If mcgahee and the coaching staff decide to sit him out for the game at Sanfrancisco next week..how much will it jeapordize a chance to get 1000 this season? I mean don't get me wrong I believe willis has had a successful season..but wouldn't it be great if he can crack 1000? and it obviously won't be easy against pittsburgh..
Welcome!
Forgive me, but I dont care one iota if WM gets 1,000 yards. Aside from his running, he is also blocking, catching, executing trick plays AND playing a huge part in the Buffalo Bills winning football games.
I hope that he is rested this week.
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AND, our leading pass rusher in 2003 (Schobel) is going up against very good to all-time great LTs every week.
Watch these numbers, especially the sack totals get even better in the next 2 weeks!

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OK man, you got me psyched, and I will run with it....
The Bills ARE as good as Pitt. right now. Our STs are sick. Our Defense is very good. Big Ben was exposed just a tad vs. the lowly giants (without their 2 starting DEs).
Bill Parcells once said that football teams will lose at least one game for every starting rookie in the lineup. A week from Sunday, the steelers are going to get their asses kicked by the Buffalo Bills football team and the 12th man!!!
Oh yeah, Drew Bledsoe will be the winning QB.
Fire away, I dont care. I am about the Buffalo Bills running the table, and it IS going to happen!
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Mike and the Mad Dog agreed that the Buffalo Bills are the "hottest team in football." Then, they agreed that "even Bledsoe is doing well."
Francessa said that possible wild card teams (including the Bills) will have a chance knocking off the higher seeded teams, and that the Bills will beat SF AND PITTSBURGH!!!!
Their predictions mean little to me BUT, it is official. The Buffalo Bills are a respected football team. In fact, they are respected more from media sources than they are by many on this board.
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AD, Prioleaux (sic?) was standing over him and I heard him scream, "You dont do that man!" It was so loud the TV mikes picked it up.
It was fantastic.
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Good defense, great special teams, and an offense that doesn't make mistakes is a recipe for good things.
A caveot: At some point, the offense is going to have to make plays as the competition gets tougher - the other good teams won't be as inclined to turn it over. That's taking away nothing from what they've done so far. Drew's transition into a solid game manager has been nothing short of astounding.
Thanks again. Wrt the special teams, they truly are great, and not just the returners and Moorman.
The coverage guys are simply kicking ass. Wire, Stamer, Aiken and others are flying down the field and making tackles. The good news is that most of these guys are under contract for a while.
There are lots of other teams that you would rather face in the playoffs right now, despite the pats recent domination. The Bills ARE good.
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I am impressed that you make this admission FM. They way they are playing, they, imo, can compete with any team right now.
PS: I say this knowing that your corners are banged up.
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The problem I have with this post is that you (perhaps unintentionally) make it sound as if teams WANT to hand the ball over to us, or dont really care.
The Bills are FORCING turnovers. As for the competition thing, we can only beat the teams we face, and we are doing so, even on the road.
It's all good.

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>>>Dude... I'm not complaining... I'm merely the vessel that is bringing you the truth.<<<
Congrats! That is one classic statement!!!
The thing is, oh "Vessel of Truth," we are winning football games both at home and on the road. Try to enjoy it.
Again, that was fantastic! I am hoping that this truth vessel continues to dock at TSW. We need all the truth that we can get.

As John Lennon once said, "All I want is some truth. Just gimmee some truth!"
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To answer your Q: no, TKrumrie had the same long-sleeve mock t-neck he wore last week. Man is INTENSE, even in the hotel lobby.....
Bengals fans were booking TKO, kind of mixed feelings about Sam W., but they still love Tim. A few of them were yelling to him during warmups; I told them "we're glad we have him".......
Well now it is official. He is one of my top 5 people that I have ever seen in sports. The brutal, blistering cold caught up with us today. 3 hours with no coat? I dont think so. Wrestling NFL defensive linemen? Another good idea.

The man is nothing short of a badass.

Henry's Trade Value
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I think that next year wont matter in terms of trade value because his contract expires after 05.
If this is true, does it change your mind about his value after this season?