Bill from NYC

No? Didn't you (not me) once post that you thought the chances of EJ being a franchise qb were well less than 50%? I do NOT want to misquote you. Please notice that the comment was in question form. Will you like this trade if he tanks? Coaches and GMs on the Bills have a horrible track record of getting equal or better jobs when the leave Buffalo. Right? Wade and Pettine did well. A majority of the rest are out of the game entirely. The chances of Marrone and Brandon (the Syracuse connection) getting other jobs at an equal level are slim to none. It's tougher to predict wrt Whaley, but I have a hard time picturing teams beating down his door to hire him as their GM. So yes, it really does appear that this was a move to salvage their shaky careers. If the Bills make the playoffs, I will be happy with this trade. If not, I will view it as a folly. Either way, it strongly appears to be a desperation move for the brass to stay employed, rather than one that was in the long term interest of this franchise. We shall see.

Yet the major reason for the trade was right there in the article: >>>>>The current front office knows the team will be sold soon, and if Buffalo fails to break its playoff drought, everyone who doesn't wear cleats will be fired.<<<<<

If EJ doesn't improve, this prediction is not at all out of the realm of possibility. And this is why I frowned on the trade. NOT because Watkins isn't "good." He could be good or even GREAT but if the Bills lose football games it is a moot point.

Is there any chance that this kid is better than Spiller? I have never seen him play; you tell me.

Thanks for the kind words. The above is where we disagree. They didn't address the QB position. And btw, I am a fan of Thad Lewis in that as we speak, I don't view him as a worse QB than Manuel. He does admittedly appear to have a lower ceiling. That said, Tuel? They really should have taken a shot at another qb after trading away a 1st in 2015. None of us know where this pick will land. It could be #25 or top 5. I have been trying, but I cannot justify not taking a stab at one of them, especially given the fact of how late many of them fell. Jmo my friend.

Go ahead and throw stones, but I give it a tentative C. Again, I am hard pressed to understand how any Bills Fan cannot see that it was based not on building the team as much as it was on Brandon, Whaley and Marrone keeping their jobs with new ownership. That said, if EJ develops it can be an A. If he sucks, this draft can be as low as F.

If EJ can play, things look promising. If not, a strong possibility exists by the time we develop a quarterback, many of our star players might be gone or stars no longer. I would not have traded away our best resources to draft a wide receiver, especially in a draft that was absolutely stacked at that position. So in answer to your specific question, it is certainly possible. All we can do is hope for EJ to become a top shelf NFL QB. If you think that he will, you must be thrilled and I hope that you are right.

This fool (me of course) thought that Aaron Murray would be drafted in round 2. So, as per our bet, here goes... I know nothing about the NFL Draft. If you have any questions, do contact CBiscuit97. It's better than losing money PS: I wish that we would have drafted Murray or McCarron, but read the above.

I am very happy for you and your family. This is great news.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. The Bills need to make the playoffs. Period. Otherwise, we will continue to have discussions as to who is "good," just like we continue to have about Gilmore, Whitner, McKelvin, and of course Spiller. If the Bills don't make the playoffs, their overall mission is a failure imo. There are reasons, obvious reasons why we don't make the playoffs. The #1 reason is of course quarterback. I think that the Bills should have drafted a qb this weekend. But as a poster above said, Brandon, Whaley and Marrone are clinging to the hope of not getting fired by the new owners. The chances of them keeping their jobs are probably not good under any conditions (especially for Brandon), and they really had nothing to lose by going all in on EJ. I don't like it but it's out of our hands. And I don't think that posters above need to be ridiculed for not marching lockstep behind managers who have proven little to nothing.

LOL not true. I am fine with taking a corner this late. I would have rather they drafted a qb, but at least they didn't waste an early first round pick on yet another DB.

Recently, I have been called out on this board for knowing nothing about football. No problem . That said, As a life long Crimson Tide Fan, I have watched virtually every game the Kouandjio has ever played, so I offer a few thoughts. NOT gospel truths......THOUGHTS. 1)In 2012, he did play LT for the Tide on the best OL in the history of college football. I think that Coach Saban put him there because he knew that he would be losing Barrett Jones, Chance Warmack and DJ Fluker. He was their 4th best blocker at the time. Sorry, it's true. 2) He is agile. I don't care about his measurable skills. And he is strong. 3) The kid is very smart. And he is NOT a person who I expect to get in trouble. One never knows but I have heard him talk and he seems like a HUGE character guy. He was born in Africa and in interviews he expresses BIG TIME love for America. 4) I think that he is more suited for RT than LT in the NFL. But the really good news is that he is an experienced LT. He played LT at the very best college program in the country. If Glenn gets hurt, this kid offers us a chance to not fall apart. This is huge my friends. HUGE!!! 5) The bad news is he is rumored to have health issues but who knows? 6) In all, I love the fact that they took him AND got an extra pick in the process. Sorry folks, I didn't like the Watkins deal, but between the SJ trade and this selection, it is far less painful. 7) Lets make the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) ROLL Tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still not liking the deal for Watkins, but I must admit that this move makes it a bit easier to tolerate. I would like to see them trade down tonight in a similar manner if they get the right offer.

Trade down and try to get at least 1 2015 pick back.

Dude, instead of stalking me on this board and boring others, why don't you send me a PM telling me what a p.o.s. I am. I promise not to tell the mods. Now, why not revisit the "Redskin" thread and pour out your aching heart yet again? Your emotional outpour was so moving I was almost in tears. Maybe we can get together some day. I'll play a few chords on my acoustic and sing "Emotional Rescue" by the Rolling Stones to you.

And none of them will ever be hired at their current capacity by another team.

Gee, this was tough to figure.

Yeah? He was happier than me.

This will set back the franchise for 5 years or so. Other than that, I am all over this pick.

Sammy Watkins, and they will give away next years first round pick to trade up. I truly hope that I am wrong. A trade up is the next to last thing I want to happen in round 1.

I gotta admit, it's nice (however rare) to be on the same page with you. :0 I will take it a step further Promo. I think it would be self serving and irresponsible of Whaley, Marrone, and most of all Brandon to trade away the future of this franchise. It's even worse given the arrest of Dareus. We might very well have an unforeseen hole at DT. KW is very good but he is a bit brittle and not getting any younger. Who knows what will happen with Marcel? The Bills absolutely cannot afford to mortgage the future to draft a flashy receiver or a DE when we have one named Mario Williams. Toss in the uncertain situation at QB and there can be no justification for trading up that I can come to grips with. This team needs an abundance of good draft choices. Let's see if EJ can play qb, and let's see if the Syracuse Crony Crew can coach this football team. If they cannot, they should all be fired and Brandon too should be shown the door.

Here's one more thing.....despite being 2nd in rushing yards they were 28th in time of possession. They were unable to sustain drives. A team needs to be able to pick up first downs on 3rd and short.

I think that you omit something of importance. A draft is not ONLY determined by selecting "good" players. It matters who you pass up. When Jauron stupidly drafted McKelvin, the very next player selected was Ryan Clady. 3 picks later, Branden Albert was drafted. Do you think that waiting 5 years for him to have a good season was better than taking either of those very good players? And, the Bills were in dire need of blockers at the time. There are many other idiotic moves that the Bills made on draft day, but none as bad as 2006. That draft alone set back the franchise for many years. The bottom line is that you can point to players that are "good," but the Bills, led by people nobody else would hire, devoted the bulk of their best resources to dbs and rbs, many of who they traded or let walk away in free agency. Things look a little better these days. Even if Manuel doesn't develop, they may have themselves some fine players from the 2013 draft. Let's hope they don't screw up tomorrow and mortgage the future by trading up.

Excuse me?

A tip of the hat to BADOLBEELZ!!!! He posted about Dareus (I am paraphrasing) "depressed, distracted, and filthy rich" is not a good combination for a successful future.