Bill from NYC

At least we know that you are not Coach Marrone.

This post made me LOL!!!!! I know you are serious, but if one reads it again, it does sum things up for many a fan. Only the Bills could take an " really upbeat" football fanatic and make him frightened that the season is about to begin. :) This board is so freaking funny, and we truly are the best fans out there. As for me, I can't wait to see how Henderson plays. He might be a true steal ala Jason Peters, which is all but impossible. That said, Pears is NOT a guard imo. I am also hoping that EJ runs the football himself, and I'm glad to see Spiller return kicks. I also will keep my eye on Bryce Brown who looks VERY good imo. GO BILLS!!!!!

Good point and welcome to the board. Your screen name does apply well to any Bills Fan !

EIL, Tom is 100% correct. The NYC PBA would not accept money if you walked in and offered it to them. They NEVER solicit. They do accept donations to the Widows and Orphans Fund but again, they NEVERR, EVER solicit. People will call from time to time and choose to donate from the goodness of their hearts. I KNOW that the above is true.

Not by much E.A. Please remember that Levy turned down "multiple trade offers" for the #8, and said that some offered more than an extra second round pick. That draft was loaded with good blockers. Absolutely stacked, let alone the fact that Cutler and Ngata were sitting there at 8. Then, they traded a 2nd and an early 3rd to move up and draft McCargo ahead of Nick Mangold. Nice, huh? And yes, Kyle Williams was a total score with first round ability and off the charts work effort. He saved the 2006 draft from being a total wash, or so one might think. But what did happen was that this draft went on to define Levy and Jauron, the worst combo I for one have ever seen.

I agree. Spiller and even EJ (in terms of running) have been treated like sacred cows. They need to earn their money, score touchdowns, and win us football games. So do I. I think he will be a factor in the Bills offense and get the football in the end zone.

BV, I was against the Marrone hire. I considered him under credentialed and a Brandon Syracuse crony. I never hid this view. And, his clock management was really piss poor, especially at halftime. This is beyond dispute. That said, I am sensing that you might admire what he did in this scenario, if of course it is true. I must say that again.....IF this is true, I actually am fond of what was alleged! An announcer on Sirius said this afternoon that he was not into drafting EJ. I like the fact hat if Marrone goes down, he will go down swinging (unlike the slow blinking Jauron). Look, this team has problems. We know this. But I am impressed with Marrone standing up. I am going to root even harder for him. I really do hope that Coach Marrone is successful. I never thought that he would be but again, I love that if he tanks, he will go down fighting. Am I making sense lol?

Hand off to Spiller, gain of 2. 1) Draw. 2) Spiller 3) Gain of 2

1) Thanks SDS for providing a place where I have been able to talk to Bills Fans for 15 or so years. Time does fly. I really can't thank you enough Bro. 2) Big time thanks to every past and present moderator. You people do the work, and do a tremendous job. 3) Thanks to those who disagree with me. If every poster said that QB is the most important position and focused on the OL the way I do, there would be little for me to discuss. Special thanks to metz lives and cb97. These two generally detest my way of viewing this team. They might even dislike me personally LOL but they are willing to engage me in Bills conversation. This matters; thanks again. 4) One complaint.....people, PLEASE stop diminishing your comments about the Bills because you are "not a GM," etc. You people have witnessed and been tortured by 14 years of absolute horror. You KNOW this football team. It would be hard to be this bad even if one tried. I am going to go out on a limb and say that if I was in charge, I would have drafted better than the "professionals" in 2006 and yes, 2014. BADOLBILZ probably would have won us a superbowl. 5) I for one like this board the most before the draft. Thanks to all of you draftkiks for caring enough to post YOUR thoughts. 6) Hey Bills Vet.....I am going to address your post (last one in page 4) in the big thread about the discord between Marrone and the brass. I sense that we are seeing the same strange thing. 7) MOST of all, thanks for those who indulge me enough to read my "thoughts." As amateurish as they are, it takes more work than you might think. Seriously, thank you all, BIG time. 8) Let's win! Let's win freaking football games!!!!! C'mon Mario, put Cutler out of his misery on Sunday! Hey CJ, score me 2 touchdowns! Give us a pick six Gilmore!!! 9) Thanks again to all, and may God bless. 10) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I pick them to finish last in their division, but who knows?

And how will he get into the HOF if the QB is not good and the head coach MIGHT be even worse? Oh, and how do you like Hackett? The above doesn't even take into account the real possibility of any player getting injured. I hated this trade from day 1. HATED it!!! That said, many posters I respect are ok with it; some even like it. I don't quite liken it to Whitner in 06. That was as dumb as one could possibly imagine. Watkins might even make a bit more sense than wasting a #10 on Gilmore. I suppose that I liken this pick in terms of being stupid somewhere around the Spiller selection, perhaps not quite as bad.

Best post of the thread! My daughters are now Bills Fans, and it's my fault. They tell draft day stories about me, and call me after the first round of every draft to this day to hear me lament, and try to soothe the pain I am usually in from stupid moves. There is nothing we can do. There just isn't. We are in this mess together unless they leave town. Then of course all bets are off. Good luck to the OP, I could just never quit. The truth is, I don't want to either.

He WAS a rookie. I really do get this. But he looks pretty bad as we speak. Can he put it all together? I hope so. But the guy is 6'4" and his passes are being blocked. Others are WAY off. If it was up to me, he would be running the read option and buying time. He is not looking like a pocket passer at all from where I sit.

And you are doing the exact same thing that you rail against. Mallet's play has been horrible? How many regular season passes has he thrown? Has he thrown 20? But you are writing him off. EJ sucked last season and has looked worse this preseason despite having a year in the system, more talent around him, and health. Tell me, how do you rate EJ? They didn't sign Orton only because Tuel and Lewis suck imo. What do you think?

Yes, but in all probability someone else will. And he might be the worst QB in the league. But he also might be much better than any QB on the Bills. Sucks for us, no?

I heard Marrone say on Sirius that he called Schwartz and offered him the DC job. He said it was an easy sell because of all the talent.

All of my fears about this trade have materialized. Watkins is injured and EJ looks beyond awful. This despite the fact that he knows the system and has more weapons than he did last year. If this doesn't get better the entire crew, with Brandon leading the parade, should be marched right out the door.

A receiver needs a quarterback to get the ball to him. Tell me, is there ANY QB situation bad enough to make you not like trading away the future for Watkins? Seriously, if the Texan were sitting at #9 with Fitz, should they have made that deal?

I am serious.....Buddy probably wanted to go to bed.

Fantastic article Dave. And before he got hurt with the Jets, he was easily one of the best players in the league.

Does this mean we should cut Manuel? He had a few "demonstrations," no?

Agreed, but who brought in this amateurish Syracuse contingent? Brandon, their Syracuse crony?

I wonder if he tweeted this before or after he hobbled off the field with yet another injury.

The above is a great point! Its a shame though because he was damn good last season.

Bad fans? Sorry but a portion of the fans could have made better decisions than a lot of the idiocy we have witnessed. Bills Fans are great. People see my license plate holder, open their windows and yell "GO BILLS!" And I am 450 miles away. You and I didn't hire the sorry lot of coaches and GMs that have held this team back. Nope, the fans are innocent and loyal to the core. I think we are the best fans in the NFL.