Bill from NYC

I would call Glenn, although not totally consistent, a high caliber lineman, or very close to it. The rest of what you say is true, and quite depressing. Btw the qb list seems to be growing. Who would you rather have on the team, Cyril Richardson or Greg McCarron? I suppose the love that Whaley has for EJ was, and probably still is not to be denied. After this season with Rex, will you switch your screen name to "8-8---> I wish"?

Maybe Whaley can trade up and take him, or another defensive back! Wouldn't that be great? We could continue to lose games but it would be OK because the player is probably "good." Then, we can post how "smart" Whaley is.

With EJ Manuel at quarterback.

1) General Manager 2) Head Coach 3) Defensive Coordinator 4) Many Positional coaches 5) Defensive End 6) Defensive Tackle (Kyle is probably done) 7) Offensive Tackle 8) Guard 9) Center 10) Linebackers 11) Receivers (need a #2) 12) Running Back for depth 13) Get rid of Brandon 14) Backup Quarterback Other than that we look OK.

McCarron played a little better than Cyril Richardson, wouldn't you say? Richardson as you know is not a very good player, but Whaley drafted him 7 picks before McCarron was selected by Cincy. I suppose Guru Whaley didn't see any need for a qb because he was enthralled by EJ Manuel. Who knows, he might still be. The more I think about it, Whaley needs a ticket sitting next to Rex in the next plane out of town.

The above is beyond dispute and there are now countless examples. Someone said in another thread that Bills Fans tend to get behind and blindly support someone who doesn't completely suck. Well I have seen this many, many times and that is Whaley imo. He IS bad but he doesn't 100%, totally suck like Rex. Either way, if they get rid if Whaley I will either not care or be slightly glad. Again, jmo.

I did not know this. Brandon reminds me of a barker at a cheap carnival, except he is about big time money. It's all he knows and really all that Ralph probably ever wanted from him.

That is an interesting hunch. I am going to let that theory settle in and kick it around. I know EXACTLY what you mean. Cousins was under no pressure at all. If that play was ongoing now he would STILL be standing tall looking for a receiver. Last week I saw something even worse. They went with a 3 man rush and one of them actually dropped back. I am almost at the point where I think the league should investigate.

C'mon, tell us your theories, both of you. This is a forum to discuss the Bills, no?

Thurman was also a fantastic pass blocker.

Please explain.....

Fixed, thanks!!!

1) It looks to me as if Dareus took the money and simply stopped trying. If he applied any pass rush at all today I must have missed it. And let's stop kidding ourselves, OK? He is no longer anything that special against the run. 2) I am not going to blast Roman as much as the inadequate coaches on defense, but those wildcat plays to EJ simply must stop. The first one was funny. The second wasn't. 3) Jerry Hughes has a lot of heart, and he's a very good player. 4) I used to think that Miller had a chance to be a good guard. Sadly, those days are gone. He is clueless and light in the ass. No way is he as good as Urbik. Mills? We can pretend he is ok, but today he looked as if he has no business on an NFL roster. 5) I hate to say this, but I will. The Bills were not a worse running team when Shady got hurt. Karlos can play football folks. Sorry. 6) The bottles stand as empty, as they were filled before. Time there was and plenty, but from that cup no more. Though I could not caution all, I yet may warn a few: Don't lend your hand to raise no flag, atop no ship of fools. 7) Because of Rex Ryan, the Bills are probably the worst team in the NFL right now, and I could live with this. It's not like this is unfamiliar footing if you will. But we are losing because the coach insists on stupidity and does not bring any discipline or accountability. I wish he didn't have 4 years left because if it was up to me, I would have fired him at halftime. 8) Hughes, the only member of our defensive line who provides any pass rush, spent much of the 1st half in unsuccessful pass coverage. Just a complete waste. 9) Watkins makes it look easy in the end zone, doesn't he? 10) You know, Tyrod had 79 rushing yards on 9 carries which is great imo. Much of this yardage was on scrambles. I wish Roman would call more designed running plays. Speaking of Tyrod, I am liking him more and more. Tyrod isn't a quitter. He is a good young quarterback who continues to improve and doesn't make many mistakes. 11) I give up. What happened on that 1st quarter punt? 12) The teams we are losing to are so-so at best. We make them look like superstars, especially opposing quarterbacks. 13) McKelvin surprised me today. I didn't think that he could play so poorly. 14) There was actually a glimmer of hope at the very end of the 3rd quarter. We had them at 3rd and 16. We used a 3 man rush and Cousins, with all week to throw, completed a pass with ease. I never, ever thought we were this kind of weak, non-aggressive team. 15) In case I don't get around to it later this week, allow me to wish every one of you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas filled with joy. This forum is great and has been for years. 16) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the Bills could make the playoffs at 6-10, Rex would probably cause them to finish at 5-11.

He is going to have a chance to prove himself on New Years Eve. Let's see how he holds up against the Crimson Tide.

Yankees countless times when I was a kid and cared about baseball. The University of Alabama Crimson Tide has brought me decades of championships and happiness, and by the way there is room on the bandwagon for new converts. I promise you years of joy if you join us. ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pooj, why was the switch from Pettine to Schwartz so painless? What is so different wrt Ryan? Here is my explanation: 1) Rex has no control over this team. 2) Rex wants 100 million dollar pass rushers to be defensive backs in a non-aggressive defense. It really is a sickening sight to behold imo.

I respectfully disagree. McCoy need to earn his millions of dollars. He needs to rest his narcissistic mouth, not his legs.

Safety? Our biggest need? Bills Fans are SO used to losing that some posters (not saying you) would actually condone making the same mistakes over and over. How about this years version of Donte Whitner? Unbelievable. Btw if you covet linebackers, Alabama has not one but two who are fantastic players, Reggie Ragland and Ruben Foster. Anything can happen wrt draft picks, but both of them might be better than anybody on our roster right now. The above hit is against one of the best running backs in college. Seriously, Fournette is that good. Foster destroys him and Ragland is rated higher than him. Tape the game on New Years Eve and then let's talk if you are thinking linebacker!

No, he is awful, but he had a decent first half vs. the Eagles.

What a fool. He just threw away millions of dollars and who knows what else? Btw have you ever seen him play? He was one of the best college DTs I have ever seen.

Ya think? The Bills handed the Eagles points just before the half by NOT pressuring Bradford at all. My friend, first you say it's all about the players. Now you want Pettine back. Which one is it? Btw, I agree with you in part. I am not seeing great effort from Mario and Marcel. BUT, they would have better numbers if they played in a defense that let them attack. This much seems to be beyond dispute.

I looked up and found this play on NFL.com and saw what you were talking about. It was just as disgusting as you described. Dareus actually left his feet, spun his body, and landed NOT facing the quarterback instead of driving towards him. Thanks. Now I am even more sickened by this game. Ryan has made this defense a sad, sick joke. I would like to see them bring back Pettine.

I do, but the Bills players have nobody to answer to. They are THE most penalized team right? They must not care what Rex thinks. It would be hard under any conditions watching Rex destroy the team. The fact that we had to listen to his grandiose claims how he was going to make us a "bully" that other teams would not want to play makes him that much harder to bear. Imo Rex Ryan is a Jauron type loser except he has a big mouth. At least with Jauron we could lose in peace.

1) Well it's official. Rex Ryan has destroyed this talented football team. 2) I know he gave up a long TD pass, but Corey Graham is a very good player, who makes plays all over the field. And btw, on the TD he did give up Bradford had all month to throw. 3) After the 47 yard TD pass to Watkins, EJ was sitting right next to Tyrod on the bench. He was smiling and encouraging. I have been critical of EJ as a quarterback but he sure seems like a good kid. 4) I'm not sure why Miller was on the field today. Do they really think he is better than Urbik? I for one do not. 5) Since the day he was signed, Mario Williams has been my favorite player on the Bills. And his sack today was great. The problem is that before the sack, he was a complete non factor. I don't know if it's because of the idiotic scheme, injuries, lack of effort, or whatever. I can't tell you but it is painful to watch. An btw Dareus was no prize either. 6) Last week, a very observant poster noted that Woods seems to be constantly falling down, at times for no reason. Well on his first catch in the 1st quarter, it looked as if he had room to run, and down he went. 7) Going where the wind don't blow so strange, Maybe on some high cold mountain range. Lost one round but the price wasn't anything, Knife in a back, and more of the same. Same old rat in a drain ditch, Out on a limb, You know better but I know him. 8) You know, Rambo is starting to grow on me in a good way. 9) There is no accountability on this team. 15 penalties? Seriously? Rex has taken this very talented team and made them into a rebuilding project, one that will have cap issues to boot. 10) On the last drive before half time the Bills were rushing 3 men on almost every play. Once, Mario was one of the three and HE TOO dropped into coverage. This team was tops in sacks for the last 2 years. Now Rex has them playing like a bunch of pansy ass losers. I am a Bills Fan. I can handle losing but this is just plain ugly. 11) Cordy Glenn probably played his best game of the season. 12) A taunting penalty by a marginal player such as Meeks? I suppose if your coach doesn't care, go for it. 13) The man just isn't very good, but Manny Lawson did play well in the first half. 14) Tyrod was the most effective runner on the field. A few more carries by him and we would have won this game imo. Considering the protection and all of those penalties, I was satisfied with his performance today. Not thrilled mind you. 15) I really, really hope that Rex will accept a buyout and just get out of here. 16) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!