Bill from NYC

ABSOLUTELY!!! Here's mine: 1) Whaley 2) Brandon 3) Rex 4) Taylor Whaley would make me the happiest by far. The Bills will NEVER be good with Whaley giving away draft picks and wasting cash on inflated contracts.

What do these teams do, lose football games?

I worry a bit about his personality but imo he can play. He is VERY agile GB. He moves extremely well and has great balance. I am anxious to see what how many reps he does with 225 at the combines. Edit: Fwiw, he was a better player than Kujo the day he walked on the field. Kujo was a great kid, but Robinson has a big talent edge.

You make some good points that I won't dispute but let me ask you this: Don't you think that Tyrod makes defenses stay back just enough to give other runners a slight edge? My point is that running quarterbacks mask offensive line problems. I have been posting this for almost 20 years, even way before the rule changes. As we both know, it's easier to block on running plays that pass plays. This is beyond dispute. The blockers know the count and get to fire out on runs. Yesterday, the pass blocking was piss poor. I don't blame Tyrod's bad performance solely on this, but I was unimpressed with the OL. Overall, it is hard to rate our OL imo, and this includes Glenn. From the naked eye, I am unhappy with the right side. Last week I thought the OC actually looked good. I paid less attention yesterday because I had company and wasn't taking notes for my "thoughts." I say it every year.....I want them to draft blockers. I know that QB is more important. Of course it is, but it never hurts to get better up front. I hope some of you draft freaks can find some good blockers. Cam Robinson is damn good but most posters will probably prefer a skill player. I guess we will know soon enough.

I really do see and understand the logic you describe. I honestly get it. That said, there were receivers galore in that draft. And I must say that it just plain sucks that when the Bills make moves like this they always seem to get bit in the ass.

:) You and many others on this board don't realize just how funny you are!

Then they shouldn't have spent 2 firsts and a fourth on him.

Yes and a 4th round pick.

Is that you Hillary? Getting around well these days? I think that Whaley has wasted TONS of money and draft choices. If you don't agree, it does not mean I am spreading false news. It means we have opinions which differ. Maybe we can get Jill Stein to mediate our difference of opinion. Can you give her a call? I think she's in Michigan.

With all due respect, I couldn't possibly disagree more with the above. Whaley might get an offer or 2 to be a scout but that's about it. What owner would possibly want someone like him to come in and waste hundreds of millions of dollars AND trade away many of his best draft picks?

Yes, running backs do mean more in inclement weather. I rode this contention to the ground for many years. The truth is that once they gave offenses the middle of the field it became a passing league. Remember what players such as Lott and Atwater used to do to "defenseless" receivers on incomplete passes? I thank God more were not killed. Now, that has become a huge fine that the player himself must pay. Overall, I stick by this post. Whaley spends money foolishly and it causes us to lose football games and have discussions such as these. I do agree GB. Dareus needs discipline. He had it at Alabama. I really do know it is different in the NFL, but the exclusion of the drug clause in his contract was absolutely insane. Where is there any accountability? As far as Hughes, he is a fine player who I REALLY wanted the Bills to keep. Like I said in the OP, he needs better coaching.

Then we should be winning lots of games next season!!!

As you can surely see, it isn't fun to think like this. As bad as things have been for all of these years, I usually had faith in the offseason, hoping that just once the front office would click and get us what we need. With Whaley, all hope is gone imo. He spends money and gives away draft picks like a kid in a candy store. Imo he is not at all professional and completely outclassed by his peers. Yep, time to start over.

If the Bills re-sign Gilmore and oust Tyrod, the following is what we are looking at next season in terms of salaries. I am going to list the 4 highest paid players, the guys who will eat up a HUGE portion of our cap space. Please do correct me if I forgot to mention someone who makes as much as those I am listing. 1) Marcel Dareus - A DT with substance, psychological, and perhaps conditioning issues. 2) Gilmore - A CB with tools who plays a very tentative game and isn't great in coverage. 3) Jerry Hughes - A talented pass rusher who seems to lack discipline on the field. I for one think that a good coach would elevate his play. 4) Shady McCoy - A talented RB with miles. He is a huge talent but he is aging and plays at a position which is fading in importance. Now toss in a GM who habitually trades away draft picks and you have yourself a hot mess. Is there anyone who thinks we can win with this? I hope that people continue to buy tickets, but this is a tough sell. Say what you will about Tim Graham but he nailed it with his recent article. The situation just isn't acceptable and the entire coaching staff and front office need to be swept away.

Yes, they were on some sort of committee together up at Syracuse. It was cronyism at it's finest, and I could deal with this if the target was Saban or Harbaugh. Marrone was second rate but you know what? I am betting that he worked twice as hard as Rex. There is a guy here who blames the fans. OK that was great! :)

If EJ was under contract, do you think we could get a 6th round pick for him? If you think he is any good, I am going to respectfully ask you to consider the possibility that as a beaten up fellow Bills Fan, your standards might be way too low. And you seem like a nice guy. I am guessing that your standards in other phases of life are quite high.

Thank you for this.

Yeah! How could anybody be dumb enough to think that EJ Manuel sucks? After the season, teams will be on line to sign him to a 100 million plus deal. I wish he was still under contract so we could trade him for a couple of first round picks.

Good points all!!! Let's put EJ Manuel in there! We haven't suffered enough!

We do not disagree wrt his ability. Sammy has the potential to be truly great, and I am well aware of and happy about this. But where we can agree to disagree is wrt the trade. 2 first rounders and a fourth in a draft chock full of wide receivers was (imo of course) a very dumb move and symptomatic of a major flaw in Whaley's game. He can't wait to give away our cap space and draft picks and doing so is NOT resulting in wins. To me it is just that simple. As a huge Alabama Fan I have seen every game in which Dareus has appeared. I follow The Tide closely and there are enough great players on that team right now to completely rebuild an NFL defense in 2 years. When we drafted Gilmore, I wanted Hightower but I digress. My point is that despite the above, Marcel's recent contract was a little hard to swallow, no? Is any DT worth that much these days? It's a passing league and pass rushers are much more important now. WAY more. Couldn't this be another example of Whaley tossing money away and not getting wins in return? Well imo, the same applies to McCoy's contract. It has little to do with his ability. He is a gifted runner to say the least. I am just sick of the same idiots (Brandon, Whaley an the Ryans) making the same idiotic moves and not winning football games. That's all.

That too

I think his contract being re-worked was a mistake. I also think that I am entitled to this opinion and that you are certainly entitled to disagree.

Why don't you read the post again and then quickly consult a clinician. You might get squeezed in for an emergency visit. Maybe they can up your Abilify.

I thought the same. I mean people should be critical of TT if they choose to, but I have seen him make a few plays because of his legs that nobody else could make.

Spiller was GOOD IN SPACE. Gilmore is a SHUT DOWN CORNER and a STUD. Whitner was a GOOD TACKLER. Watkins was the BEST WR IN THAT DRAFT. McCoy is ELITE We both could go on and on about these and other very costly mistakes. Even if the above descriptions are all true, the fact is that the wins are just not there. The playoff appearances are just not there. That is because of shaky quarterback play, poor drafting and planning, needlessly trading away draft selections, pitiful coaching, rank amateur GMs, and wasting cap space by signing players to unnecessarily inflated contracts. McCoy is a pleasure to watch most of the time, at least as of late. Still, count me as one who thinks the contract was dumb, and even typical of Whaley, who just can't wait to toss away our best resources. As you can see, Badol doesn't need me to speak for him and I am not trying to, but I sense that the above is at least partially his take.