Bill from NYC

How would you classify Gilmore? As a dedicated team player who goes all out? Don't forget the 4th.

Not necessarily in order, here are some of the fiascos.... 1) Drafting Sammy. He mortgaged the future and lost. 2) Giving Dareus a billion dollars. 3) Taking the behavior clause out of his contract. 4) Shaq - looks like a mistake but it's admittedly early. 5) Gave up to much for Ragland. 6) Gave the Eagles a 4th for that running back who lasted 10 or 15 minutes. 7) Was, and still might be in love with EJ. 8) Too much money to Clay. 9) Percy Harvin. 10) He is an undisciplined poor planner and throws away the Bills resources at will. 11) Rob Ryan. I mean really. Other than the above, he is pretty good.

:) I am sure that the fans were blamed for the quarterback situation hundreds of times in this glorious catalogue.

He will not be missed all that much and drafting him was a dumb idea in the first place. And before anyone pulls out more stats, please remind me of 2 things: 1) How many games Gilmore took over and won for this team. 2) How many playoff appearances we have since we used a #10 on Gilmore. Stats are fine, but they have a place. I read stats on this board that indicated that Rex Ryan was a good coach. The fact is that Rex, nice guy or not, is a lousy, dog-ass coach. And remember, Gilmore wants to get out of here just as fast as he can. No, he didn't tell me this, but am I the only one to be reminded of the Clements situation? Clements and his wife wanted out of Buffalo under any and all conditions. Well, how good was Clements after he bolted? People complain about Gilmore at his current salary.....could you imagine this type of play for 15 million per season? Imo, Gilmore leaving is a foregone conclusion. The compensatory pick might come in handy too. Maybe.

They sure will! If Gilmore leaves (perish the thought) the Bills might not finish at .500!!!

They show Ryan Anderson going to the freaking Patriots late in round 2! It doesn't seem fair!

If we are up at #1 Darnold will stay in school.

GB when and if the fans stop attending games, he may have a problem.

I know the feeling. A safety will do little to nothing towards make making the Bills a team to be taken half way seriously, and he is sure to play one contract and bolt. History leaves me without a doubt that a top 10 db for this particular team will result in more and more losses. That's the way it works when you have problems at quarterback, shaky lines and a lack of talent at wide receiver. That said, I don't think Brandon will allow a safety to be drafted at #10. Yes, I did say Brandon. A safety or a corner, no matter how good they are, will not result in increased ticket sales, let alone wins. This would put Brandon's job in jeopardy. jmo

He is, and he's a very smart, grounded kid. He was excellent last season and stayed at school. Now he is that much better and seems to improve every week. Allen has not one weakness. If he fell to #10 he is the type of player who can take over games and win them for you.

The above is good information. Thank you. It might be a bit over simplified, but you do make a point. That said, all of these teams have a top shelf quarterback. Most are very solid on both lines and deep at wide receiver. When the Giants drafted Landon Collins at with the first pick of round 2, I was familiar with him and knew it was a good move, even though they traded up for him. That said, in 2014 they drafted OBJ in round 1 and a Center in round 2. In 2015, they also drafted a guard in round 1 before they drafted Collins. They strengthened their OL ad already had a qb before they took him. I believe you that safety is gaining in importance. I would be all in at safety if I had trust in our QB, OL, DL, and we are going to need at least 1 wide receiver. If we take a safety at #10 he will probably be "good." And the team will probably go backwards. Jmo.

Well, if you think it was mostly about losing Aaron Williams, why would you say Rex was "rightly relieved?" Do you think if they kept Rex and picked up a good safety, the team would be in the playoffs next year? I am not being a smartass either. I am missing what you are getting at. Sorry.

I would want more than an extra second round pick for trading the #10 to go to the bottom of round 1. Much more.

It really is great to hear you say this!!! You were doing SO well!

I wouldn't mind drafting a corner, just not in round 1. Promo addressed a possible solution above. Trading down, if we get the right offers, might make lots of sense for this team. We could use extra picks for this season and 2018.

No, but it would appear that Levy went strictly for need. I was the happiest Bills Fan in America when the Raiders drafted Huff at 7. Then came Whitner at #8 in one of the dumbest moves in Bills history which is quite the distinction. I guess so many dumb moves like this over the years have made me squeamish. I really hope Whaley doesn't give away more picks. Wouldn't it be great to GET extra picks instead?

I could be wrong but I don't see them drafting Foster, simply because they already have Ragland. If fact, I heard Ragland take credit for passing the torch to Reuben and showing him what has to be done at mlb. That said, a healthy Foster might be the best lb in college. I liken him to a faster, MUCH stronger, and more violent Kiko. Reuben Foster flies all over the field on every play, and btw can blitz pretty well but is rarely asked to. If it's olb the Bills want, I recommend Ryan Anderson. He might be available in round 2, where he would be an absolute steal. He can blitz AND cover, as you saw on 12/31. As a 3/4 rusher, Tim Williams provides pressure on virtually every play.

If Whaley takes a safety, it is likely that the top graded one will already have been drafted, ala 2006 when Levy turned down numerous trade down offers, scorned far better players, and drafted Donte Whitner. Moves like this hobble a franchise for many years as you can see.

We don't have a good history with top 10 OSU safeties.

Their safeties are both sophs. Ronnie Harrison hits as hard as perhaps anybody in college football. He is also big with long arms and can cover. The only thing that worries me about him is that he is excitable. But he is just punishing. I hope someone else who watches him chimes in. Minkah Fitzpatrick took over for Eddie Jackson at the other spot. Minkah was the nickel. He is great in coverage and is a total ball hawk. The kid is very smart and a difference maker and gets even better each week.

Clemson looks good. They played well in the game last year so they think they can win. There is a plus! The line opened with The University of Alabama Crimson Tide at minus 6 1/2. I thought it would be closer to 3 or 3 1/2. These teams are close. The thing is, our QB Hurts is a true freshman. He is as cool as it gets but he obviously lacks experience. I liken him to a slower, much stronger Tyrod. He doesn't look it but he does huge numbers in the weight room and can knock down defenders with a stiff arm. He has wonderful receivers, very good rbs, fine TEs. The OTs are superior and the center gets better every game. All of the above and they really are NOT an offensive team. The defense is MUCH better than last year. They have 2 DTs that have to be doubled. This often leaves players such as Allen, Williams and Anderson getting blocked 1 on 1. Not good. Reuben Foster is WAY better than Ragland was, and Rags could play. Credit BADOL for calling that before the season! Their safeties are great and the corners are good. They are all but impossible to run on. You can pass some but you better get rid of the ball quick because their pass rushers will take you out. I'm not going to make a prediction. I'm just saying ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree. This was my point. The Huskies defense was better than I thought. I knew all about the Tide defense.

Not necessarily. Washington didn't play that bad on defense. Bama probably would have scored a lot more point against Penn State but as you say, there's no way to tell.

I am not sure what you mean by the above. In 2012, Janoris Jenkins was a 2nd round pick. We of course took Gilmore at #10. Even if you think Gilmore is a better player (debatable for sure), do you think he is 29 places in the draft better? I for one completely do not. Again, are you saying that the 2nd round is too late for a corner?

Dave, could this really be possible? Seriously? There are probably 1,000 posters on this board who knew EJ was awful YEARS ago. If you are correct, that is a scary scenario. Wouldn't you say? Call me crazy, but I am thinking that posters on a message board are not supposed to know more than general managers. What a mess.

Hey man, this was a great post and sadly, every word is true. The premise of Whaley being anything less than awful is weak indeed. It's a shame what little we Bills Fans have to cling to.