Bill from NYC

It is coach but I think we can win a few more games for having ousted Rex. Now, if we can have a productive draft without Whaley giving away our picks.......

Me too, I'll grab Jairus and his fake injuries from the cut my wrist list.

If it was up to me we would keep Tyrod AND draft a qb at #10.

John C. is frequently on the money and has been for years. Sadly, he will soon be apologizing to me for saying that Whaley is anything near adequate.

I'm sure this doesn't include the numerous times he just stood there dancing and futilely waving his arms. Rex and his bad defense were both an utter disgrace.

Whaley put this team in a hole with the foolish, wasteful contracts and squandered draft picks. Rex made matters that much worse. Your post rightfully points fingers at Rex who was a disaster from day 1. Still, Whaley was as undisciplined as Rex. And then he sent this 350 lb. man into pass coverage.

When you put it that well and in such simple terms I don't know if we should laugh, cry, or both.

One site lists him as 6'7"/277. If true, he is a freak. It's hard to tell how fast he is from the video but he sure looks to be worth consideration. Nice fiend!

I don't know what to expect of Jones. He looked good in college and then he was benched. Strange, ya know? As for Whaley, he won't last. But Bills Fans are loyal, good people and will put up with a loser like him until we are completely drained.

Gilmore is a UFA. He is not under contract so he currently does not count against this years cap. Fantastic point! Taylor? I'm not so sure but in my very strong opinion he would NEVER give Gilmore a huge contract.

"True dark ages." Indeed. Watching these men destroy the team was painful, but being at games with you and others at Lot 1/Pole 4 eased the pain. The best part of rooting for the Bills (imo) was always the interaction with other fans. Btw, I do not for one second rate Whaley above the people you listed above. This team has major holes, isn't in great shape wrt the cap, overpays decent and or/players with major issues, has qb issues, faces a tough schedule, and is low on draft picks. Only Bills Fans are loyal enough people to support a disgrace such as Whaley. Jmo.

Yes, I agree but any person or entity is capable of making a mistake. The people who decide this are more educated than me but I think they are making a mistake. And to the OP, yes, I do care but not to a very large extent. I am hoping/planning on moving to NC. Gov. Cuomo wants to or did cut off business from NYS to NC. He is, imo of course, a complete a-hole. He is taking a stand for and against who? For men who want to wear a dress and go in a women's bathroom, and against mothers and fathers who could do without their daughters exposed to pervs and psychotics? PS: I have nothing whatsoever against trannies. In my career I have dealt with hundreds of them. If anything, I have compassion for them. That said, I don't really think that the world owes it to them to cater to their whims/cravings.

Nice job Brother!

Jonathan Allen is a great player. I would be shocked if he lasts until 10 but if he did, one would think that he would be worth a fortune in a trade.

Yes, I think so too. He also pointed out (as did Carrucci) how Tyrod's contract is not at all excessive and that the LAST thing Tyrod should ever do is take a pay cut.

He told of how he was on the Bills when they dumped Bledsoe and went with Losman. He went on to say that the best players on the team were furious and virtually quit on the team. They knew that there was no chance to win with Losman. He also said that players such as Incog, Glenn, Wood, and others would do the same if Whaley cuts Tyrod and goes with CJ. He went on to list several dumb moves by Whaley (letting go of Hogan, drafting EJ Manuel and other stupid moves). He is NOT impressed with Whaley, nor am I. I guess any time a Bills Fan thinks that it can't get worse with this team, reality smacks us in the face. I for one hope that we keep Tyrod and fire Whaley, who is a rank amateur and a sub-par joke of a GM. I do however hope that he keeps us posted with fashion tips. He sure knows how to dress (and destroy a football team). GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After he trades up.

John, I base my opinion of Whaley on MANY things, although the first one does happen to be how he mishandled the QB position. I heard yesterday on Sirius that the Patriots are 63 million under the cap. 63 Million!!!! We are nowhere near this and we pay Clay approx. 63 Billion to be an average Tight End. Whaley did have some OK signings and draft picks. For instance Darby is OK for a 2nd round pick. Hooray! The man drafts crippled players with high picks and gives away draft picks at will. Who put the clause in the overpaid Marcel Dareus contract that drug suspensions were ok? Whaley, imo, is an utter disgrace. He might not appear to be a clown/buffoon like Rex, but he is a rank amateur. Tell me, if he is fired, do you think there will be an NFL team stupid enough to hire him as GM?

John, in 2014, the Bills signed a defensive back named Ross Cockrell with the 9th pick in round 4. With the 13th pick of round 5, they took Cyrill Richardson. The Bengals, with the 24th pick in round 5, drafted AJ McCarron. The Bengals already had Dalton at QB. The Bills had EJ Manuel. Whaley really needs to go, wouldn't you say?

The teams you mention got there primarily because of their qbs. I know this and I already stated that qb was the most important position. Does this mean pass rush isn't important? How did the Giants beat Brady? What did Von Miller do last year? If Brady got sacked a few more times the Patriots probably would have lost the game. But, their rock solid OL held off pass rushers. Defensive backs can no longer hit "defenseless receivers." Offenses now own the middle, not Ronnie Lott, Steve Atwater, etc. Quarterbacks, pass rushers and blockers are the most important pieces of a football team, and the hardest to get.

Honestly, I can live with a wide receiver much more than a defensive back. It's sad however to be in this position after Whaley used 2 #1 picks and a 4th on Sammy in a deep wr draft.

Quarterback is the most important position by far. I suspect every poster here knows that. What I don't understand is how many posters want to repeat the same mistake of using our best primary resources on what is properly referred to as the "secondary." The Bills have gone down this losing road time and time again and can't even sneak into a wild card spot. BADOL, as is his norm, makes extremely poignant points about the OL. The truth is that other than Glenn, this is not an awfully good unit (although I was impressed by the backup center). Like him or hate him, Tyrod makes these players look better than they are. He moves around so well that there is less of a need for good pass blocking. He also help the running game because defenses have to focus on him. My point? An infusion of talent is needed up front, especially on the right side. Pass rush today is the real defensive equalizer. All the rules favor the receiver these days, and if a qb has time he will destroy you. Pass rushing DEs and tweeners are worth their weight in gold. These guys pressure and sack quarterbacks. They take over games and win them for a team. I want the Bills to draft a qb in round 1 every year until they are certain that they have their guy. It can't hurt and remember, qbs have astronomical trade value. For example,let's see what the Bengals get for McCarron, another player that the Bills senselessly whiffed on. Finally, I haven't given up on Tyrod. As I said, he needs better talent up front and better receivers. To make this happen, we could use a GM who stops giving away our draft choices, but that is another horror show for another thread.

I respect your well presented opinion but I do disagree. I think that if this Bills team had Revis and Mel Blount in their primes, they would fail to make the playoffs.

As I vaguely remember, Jenkins had off field issues in college, and some injuries in the NFL. My girlfriend is a Giant Fan so I saw him in a few games. I thought he was clearly superior to Gilmore. Landon Collins was of course great as well, but I already knew this.

Bandit, do you think that Gilmore is a better cb than Jenkins? I am not trying to prove any point at all, I just am interested in your opinion. I don't pay as much attention to secondary play as I do to both lines so for what little it's worth, and without bothering to check stats, I think that Jenkins is clearly superior.