Bill from NYC

Yes, have a wonderful day!!!

What was it I heard about Alabama having issues? :) :)

Fans are rightfully angry at the mess the Bills have given us. It would be hard to not make the playoffs for 17 years even if you were trying not to. So yes, anger at the Bills organization makes sense. Your anger is at the fans. You appear to hate us. I for one understand that this is your own way of coping. But passing this off as objectivity is nonsense. It's easier for you to take out your frustration on fans like Coach T, me and others than it is to face the fact that the Bills are run poorly and have been for many, many years. I think that Bills Fans are some of the most loyal, most intelligent and funniest of sports fans but hey that's just me.

I know. He does a great job with the draft too. Look at all those starters he selected! And he sure is stingy with those draft picks!!!

When you use the word "back," it begs the question, at what point were we not the NFL farm team? How many years ago was this? And btw, Whaley tried to re-sign Byrd. This is a dirty little secret that many Bills Fans refuse to admit. This is OK; we all have different coping mechanisms.

I know, really. Why be critical of such a well oiled machine?

I was at RWS when Flutie ran it in on the last play of the game against Tampa Bay. People in the stands were falling all over themselves and I somehow wound up on the bottom of a huge pile of people. In fact there were a couple of old ladies on top of me as well as who knows how many other fans. I was not the least bit injured. As soon as the game was over the tailgate continued with by best friends and people I met from this board and am still friends with. Good times man.

Isn't it amazing how much hate and jealousy that the Crimson Tide bring out in some folks. Just a quick word about Kouandjio: This kid never got into any trouble at Bama. He was always a good, solid kid who was thrilled by and very appreciative of being a citizen of this country. As much as I love the Tide, I was never that fond on selecting Kujo that early. Even though he played LT, he was the 4th or 5th best player on that OL, and I am only counting starters. That particular OL was (imo) the best I have ever seen on a college team. Kujo also had a history of injury. What matters now is whether of not he is OK. He is just a kid who seems to have some problems. He isn't Aaron Hernandez. I pray for a full and speedy recovery for him.

Badol, does the above quote suggest that trading down multiple times is the thing to do? Yes, building a team also involves free agency and trades but imo, the best method will always be to draft the right players.

That and winning.

"Common sense" would indicate that you can rule it out in this case. Which prisoner is tough enough to hang him involuntarily? The man had a private cell. The COs would have to let at least 5-10 inmates to subdue Hernandez, wouldn't you think? And if you think that the COs did it, again, how many would it take? Would it make any noise? Would it be captured on camera? Also, autopsy reports will indicate if he was stabbed or hit with an object. Nope, he iced himself.

Thank you. The above is correct word for word. And of course the trade-up for Sammy was far from the only time Whaley threw away draft picks. Whaley has wasted so much cap space that the Patriots have been able to step in and strip our team of players and I'm not even referring to Gilmore, who as far as I'm concerned they can have for 40 mil or so guaranteed. Raw, meaning they both suck?

You are not. I read last night on TSW that he is great. Imo he will never get another job in his present capacity. He seems to lack the self control to compete with the big players.

We are on the same page. I think that for the most part we always were. We just talk in a different manner. :)

Copy and paste this: 1. Mike Williams : Browns 2. Corey Davis : Bucs 3. Malik Hooker : Eagles 4. OJ Howard : Dolphins 5 Mitch Trubisky : 49ers Bills Pick (bonus) : Jamal Adams

I stand corrected. When Sammy came up I seem to recall him being listed as shorter than 6'1'. My bad. As long as Sammy remains on the Bills, I hope he has a better career than Cooper. Remember, I have seen much more of Amari than I have of Sammy. What I am sure of is that Watkins has great moves, better than most receivers I have ever seen. He has the talent. That is beyond question. If he has as much heart as he has talent (and the right attitude), he could be a hall of fame type player. Cooper as you know is a year behind Watkins. He is one excellent football player and seems like a great kid. I liked him in college as much as I did Jones. I am reasonably sure that he will continue to improve and excel. We shall see.

John, let me explain it this way: You and I do disagree wrt Gilmore. You seem to feel that he was very good. I think he was fairly good despite lackluster effort. Let's put our feelings aside and pretend that he was great, ok? How much of a difference would he have made? How many times would the Bills have made the playoffs? Before Rex screwed up the defense Searcy was picking off passes because there was more consistent and better pass rush. People on this board often confuse good players with good draft picks. Quarterbacks win football games. So do elite pass rushers and dynamic lines. Great receivers win games if they have a QB to get them the football. The Bills used 2 firsts and a 4th to draft Watkins. HE is good (when healthy). This is beyond dispute. It was the draft pick that sucked. I liken it to buying and paying extra for a Jaguar without a steering wheel.

I don't know Jeff, but I would bet that if he handled the drafts for the last 17 years, the Bills would have at least 1 playoff appearance. I would say the same for at least 50 other posters. I don't blame you if you think that the above is bs mind you, but I truly do mean this. A couple (imo) could run the team quite well.

Yeah, there is. Cooper is a much bigger target and his hands are at least as good as Sammy's. Don't you think that a big, open receiver such as Amari makes life easier for Carr? Watkins would appear to have a bit more talent than Cooper, but imo it is far less of a slam dunk than the picture you paint. Now, who would I rather have on the Bills? Cooper, but I am probably not being 100% impartial. Still, the kid is special. I have seen him pull in passes for completions that looked WAY out of bounds. Amari is a good kid and a clutch player who can and will win a team some football games.

Exactly.

Other than Derrick Henry, not too many Crimson Tide players are going to put up gigantic numbers because there is just so much talent there. Coaches have room to call plays to any number of gifted players on every down. I saw every game Jones played in college and he was great the second he walked on the field. As you say, his physical skills are unreal. Do you see how high he can get to catch a football? And do keep your eye on Amari Cooper as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he turns out to be as good as Jones. Watkins has amazing talent. He really can get open. I have no problem with a healthy Watkins but I'm not so sure I would consider him as good as Jones. Jmo.

Who is he saying we will take?

If you are correct, I view it as proof that he was a horrible draft pick. I will never understand those who defend Whaley. Btw CB, would you take a middle to late 1st round pick for him?

What do you folks think he would be worth in a trade if we signed him? I am not saying that I am 100% for a trade. Now, would I consider one for a very nice offer? Yes, absolutely.

You have a point but believe me, they are totally different players. Ragland relies much more on muscle than does Foster. He plays hard but Foster is 100% on every play and simply flies all over the field. Foster is far more versatile than Ragland; there is no phase of linebacker play that he isn't good at, including coverage. It's tough to say how good Rags will be in the NFL. What I do know is that he is one tough kid.