Bill from NYC

The truth is that I should laugh it off and not care. Chances are the OP is correct and we will just continue to lose. A shortcoming of mine is that I care too much about the Bills and most of all their suffering, loyal fans.

Great draft!!! Let's waste the #10 selection in a draft that looks decent on the 3rd ranked safety and 4th ranked defensive back. I mean really, who needs a quarterback? Or a receiver. We are SO deep there. And why draft blockers and/or pass rushers? Who needs them? Not the Bills! We are just deep as a well all over the field. SO deep that we can toss this pick on a safety (in the garbage). You see, if this kid is "good," we will still lose football games. History proves this. And, we will lose him after his first contract. History has proven this too. I am truly sorry to be harsh and trust me, I appreciate the effort. Are you very young? Do you not know had badly this team was ruined by drafting this type of player so high?

I disagree. I read all over the internet that we would draft Spiller and Gilmore, and was not the least bit surprised when we did. Soon, I am pretty sure that we will draft another first round defensive back. Would this surprise you?

Are Brandon and Whaley still here? No, that would be a job for the therapist.

Fantastic post!!!

That draft sucks. It should have put more emphasis on the secondary. That is how you build a winning team!

Fair enough but I'm gonna run with Nate > Winfield > Gilmore.

Not even close imo. I would MUCH rather have Clements in his prime that Gilmore 2x. I wasn't happy when the Bills drafted Clements in round 1 (I was hoping that they went with Steve Hutchinson) but it should be noted that the Bills drafted Clements at #21, after trading back from 14 and picking up another 2nd round pick. Of course they wasted it on Travis Henry, but this is for another debate. Clements was just a better player than Gilmore in every imaginable way. What they did have in common was a fierce desire to get out of Buffalo. I remember Nate's wife even talking about it.

Yes. I actually saw them on 2nd Ave. They were not that consistent but the album "Fire of Freedom is in my top 10 albums of any band all time. Seriously, everybody should try to get their hands on that cd. It is just that great.

I really liked Further much better. John Kadlecik (imo of course) is as close as it gets to Jerry. The John Kadlecik Band is also very good. I have seen these two bands in 6 states. Traffic was great! I have tickets to see Winwood on 4/28. I'm not sure what to expect.

That is very cool. Although there are plenty of haters, I am often surprised at the number of Crimson Tide Fans that post here. I have been to 16 Bills games and have yet to see the Tide in Tuscaloosa (although I did see them years ago at the Meadowlands). It costs WAY more than watching the Bills. The Bills are a qb, a good draft and a GM away from being a playoff team imo. I would not be surprised if TT gets us in the playoffs. If McDermott can coach and Whaley is isolated/fired, we just might creep in imo. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The above IS tough to argue with. You know what is completely crazy? The fact that SO many posters on this board knew that Marrone and his staff were amateurs, knew Rex was a fraud, knew that almost every draft was terrible, knew it was a mistake to trade up for Sammy, etc. I am NOT saying that I am one of them, I am NOT, but there are a couple of posters here that could have ran this team better than the "pros" have. It wouldn't seem possible but I really believe this.

Born and raised in Queens. My friends and I would go to Shea and watch Jet games. I liked them because of Namath (my father was born in Alabama) and I much preferred the AFL to the NFL. When the Jets moved to New Jersey I didn't forgive them. I became a Bills Fan and never looked back. Being a Bills Fan and a Crimson Tide Fan is really strange. As an Alabama Fan, you are an immediate member of a cult that wins. It's crazy. Sometimes they will be losing and you can just feel that they will come back. Then the other team makes one mistake and it's lights out. I have been a Bills Fan for decades now. I've got to meet and know some of the best, nicest, and most knowledgeable fans in the country. Also, they are some of the funniest people on earth. Much of the humor is pain based. I have no regrets. My daughters are Bills Fans and they are fighters, and loyal people. I guess the most weird thing is that I admit to feeling just a tad guilty after the Tide rolls over someone. Bills Fans deserve a team like this. Let's just make the playoffs, OK?

Not so fast. This implies that EJ wouldn't suck if he went somewhere else. Well, for now he is a Raider and my guess is that he gets cut. EJ is simply unable to be a productive NFL qb.

Ryan did a ton of damage no doubt. Watching a 340 (at least) pound Dareus stand still and wave his hands was almost as sickening as watching him drop into coverage. They could have given Marcel a cane and played "Singing in the Rain" in the background, this after Rex promised that the team would be a "Bully." Whaley has to stop with the radical desperation moves. I know that times are tough but trading away a #1 and a #4 to move up for a receiver is a bad move when the qb (HIS choice) is EJ Manuel.

You make solid points and I do not dismiss them at all. And as you probably know, I want Ragland to succeed as much as any poster here does because he was on the Tide. I simply can't get over the very strong feeling that Whaley is undisciplined and in over his head. If he stays and improves I will be the first to praise him.

Hey, what caused your site to fold? What were you, the resident douchebag? Thank you, I am feeling great and am truly blessed. You know Mike, I think that this influx of new posters will be good for TSW. Our mods and SDS have been at this a while and will be able to see who is doing what before very long.

He missed several opportunities to draft a quarterback. It isn't so often that you can get a good one by trade or free agency. He peddled away picks instead of stockpiling them. Don't you wish we had more coming into this draft? Also, Whaley was lucky that a few of his dumb moves failed, such as trying to re-sign Spiller and Byrd. He made a great trade when he got Hughes and had some good signings so he isn't 100% bad imo. I want a GM who can resist dumb trades, draft sensibly, and get this team into the playoffs.

I view him as lacking in discipline. I'm not confident with him heading into a draft given his propensity toward trading away picks. Buffalo has not been such a popular destination for NFL players since the super bowl years. The draft is the best way for the Bills to build a winning team and Whaley has done a lousy job imo.

:) And what would that make me Thomas?

Of course it is my opinion. Both of us are entitled to opinions, no? If you think he has done a good job and you want to keep him, run with it.

Weren't you up at Dartmouth when my daughter graduated?

Thanks for the intelligent response. You are a pretty smart guy.

That was a great article. >>>The roster is a monument to weak drafting and short-sighted personnel management. At the end of last season, the Bills had fewer of their own draft picks on the roster than any other team. They had 22 unrestricted free agents on March 1. They had precious few "value" players, young stars who are on their first contracts and help balance the roster.<<< One of the reasons for the above quote is that Whaley keeps trading away our precious draft picks for little return. Listen, I don't hate the man. The truth is that he is a lousy, undisciplined, short sighted GM. If he was watching his money he is set for life. Bills Fans deserve a GM who can get us into the playoffs. Whaley will never, ever land another job in this capacity. He needs to be fired.

Stop, good thread!!! I would try for a 3rd but a 4th wouldn't be out of the question.