Bill from NYC

Nothing ever posted in 2 decades of TDB was as funny as the work of Hogboy. All of his threads were absolutely hysterical. The man, in a moments notice, could adopt dozens of different personalities. Remember him as "Miami Don Johnson?" He would claim to be sipping a pina colada on the beach while Bills Fans are shoveling 2 feet of snow. He once brought in his son for help on a thread. He would purposely misspell words to anger others and get them to call him stupid, etc. He used to go on law enforcement sites and call correction officers "jail guards" (he was once a corrections officer) and referred to volunteer firemen as arsonists who derived sexual pleasure from starting fires (quoting nutty, made up stats). Now he is on Facebook and he tortures both Trump and Hillary supporters. He has better trolling luck with the Trump people, whereas most Hillary supporters will just claim that she is not relevant and dismiss her corruption. Hogboy is the Babe Ruth of trolls!!!

Guard? The last first round Guard we drafted was in 1995. The Bills draft 1st round defensive backs and running backs, not guards. Tua looks as if he will be not good but great. Still, waiting for him is not the answer. Even if he turns out to be all world there is no guarantee that they will be in a position to draft him. It would be a dream come true for me but the odds of Tua in Buffalo are slim at best and we MUST go and get a qb in this draft. When I read this I wondered, "why such a nasty remark from such a good poster?" Then I read your location. It's all cool.

I think that Gettleman meant was that it takes 5 years to recover from NOT drafting a very good quarterback when you have the opportunity to select one. For instance, the Bills passed on Mahomes last season and chose to draft a corner. I am not claiming to know if Mahomes is any good but if he is, the Bills will be set back no matter how good the corner turns out to be. I am not a Giant Fan. Never was; but, I think that Gettleman is going to be a fine GM. And I don't think he will pass on drafting a qb.

That is a nice mock. I heard someone on Sirius predict that we would trade down to 9 with the 49ers. I do however think that the Giants will draft a qb. Gettlleman is a very interesting guy and is on Sirius quite often. He says that missing on a qb is a "5 year mistake." It made me think how a vast majority of our Bills 1st round picks were 5 year mistakes lol. Donte Whitner anyone? I really do not think that our current leadership is this stupid; good news indeed!

No prob., let him rest.

Mine would resemble yours except that I would place CB at #7 just above MLB.

Yeah, I am pretty surprised to not see more love for LTs. Not only do they prolong the health and career of your most important player, they also improve your running game and dominate the clock when needed. The Bills have fielded left tackles (Greg Jerman, Demetrus Bell, etc.) who placed the QB's lives in jeopardy in the literal sense. They always placed more value in defensive backs. How well did that work out?

Offensive Left Tackle. You are talking about someone better than Orlando Pace.

I have the same one in crimson!

I haven't had much time this year to really scout the draft. That said, I was watching the NFL Channel today and saw Connor Williams in drills. He looks like a huge, mean blocker. This is something that the Bills desperately need, and have needed for some time. Tyrod is no longer here to run away from trouble. The left side is gone and we already sucked at RT. I want this kid on the Buffalo Bills. What do you all think?

A lot of winners up there!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need to be instructed by You as to where to post on this board but thanks for the effort.

Fair enough; sorry about that.

Really? Have you counted your own posts in this thread ODB? The despair, hatred and jealousy are oozing out of dozens of posts, no? Yeah, I would say there is some interest in greatness. And your point is? Are people who disagree with you automatically wrong? He was also sprawled out on the floor trying to cry after a loss. Oh wait.....that was a different coach!

Don't worry, in a decade or so your inferior team just might come within 30 points of the National Champion University of Alabama Crimson Tide. Try not to let the jealousy and hate build until then; it's like poison, ya know? Saban is and it isn't close.

https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Bolt/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-Recruiting-Alabama-Nick-Saban-lands-4-star-DT-Rashad-Cheney--117039881 Apparently he was committed to Georgia.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/colleges/n

Thanks, my mistake.

Ouch!

Look back now if you will at the Watkins trade. Whaley used the 9th pick, a future 1st rounder and a 4th to move up 5 spots......to draft a receiver. And please, I know Sammy is "good." That is not, nor was it ever my issue. Even if we DID have a qb at the time, that would have been a dumb move and just one of many. I have always had a theory about the draft.....I think that 1 horrible, stupid draft (ex.: Bills 2006) can set a team back for many, many years. And as you said from day 1, quarterback is the way to go. I even have another theory that involves defensive backs, but you may have heard it once or twice.

Can't you just go away? This is a football message board, not a forum to spew your whining political views. Please, take your multiple screen names and get lost. The board was a much better place before you arrived.

I would like to know what you (and others) think that it will cost us to obtain Mayfield?

I don't know what to expect John. They are not rank amateurs ala Whaley, but they do have a tough situation ahead. My guess is that they are eyeing Mayfield. Darnold (obviously the best imho) will be long gone and I think Allen will be next. Hopefully the Jets will grab Rosen. In this scenario, trading up to take Mayfield will cost dearly. I'm personally ok with it, although I do hope that we can hang onto the 1st round pick in 2019. My reasoning for the above is that the Bills could finish with a worse record this season than 2017. Remember, I watched every game McCarron played in college. He is good John but he played behind perhaps the best OL ever in college football. The Bills OL (if it stays healthy) appears to be thin and average at best. AJ isn't able to run out of jams ala Tyrod; hopefully he can be a better passer and negate this.

This is quite probable.

Good question Doc because like him or hate him, Gronk is far and away the best TE in football history. Don't get me wrong, I'm not sold on bringing him into Buffalo at his age (and in his health), but someone as good as him is worth a top 5 pick, if not #1.