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I don't have any problem at all with Mularkey trying to pull the reigns in on crappy behavior and attitude from certain players. That's part of his job. Since the depth on this team is not all that great it hurts the on-field talent to bench some of these guys, but it has to be done. It also sends a message to the younger players that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. If these players cannot change their ways, then they need to be sent packing.
This season is the turning point for MM. In a way, he is using this season to find the hard workers, find his own identity, impose his personality and try out tricky plays. Blame lies with TD that he did not build up the team with adequate number of good players and did not pay attention to depth.
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I respect your different take on the situation but I disagree. If Mularkey was taking the "hard working, blue-collar, no bs" approach then how do you explain his post game sentiment from Sunday's meltdown? The team blew a freakin 20 point lead in the 4th quarter! After the game Mularkey talks about how "the team tried their best" and "he feels bad for them that it worked out that way". Why wasn't he pissed off!!? I said somewhere in another thread that in high school hockey when we were awful in a game, the post-game talk and following practice were utter hell. I don't buy the fact that he's "weeding out" the slackers on the team. If that were true, on this past Monday morning our roster would have about 13 active players and 40 suspensions / cuts.
Thanx for respecting my difference of opinion.
If he did not blow it in the press conference, it speaks of his self control. He could have well blown a fuse and a steam valve in the locker room. Which is the right thing to do as opposed to ripping his team in public.
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If he had given details, this board would have smashed him for washing the team's dirty laundry in public.
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I have a different take on the Bills situation brought to a head by the EM situation.
Consider what has happened with player moves:
- Releases Bobby Shaw
- Bench JP for non-performance
- Benched Sam Adams
- Speaks out against lack of effort on WM's part
- Tries MW at LG, fails, corrects mistake
- JP comes in for injured KH, plays welll and gets starting job for good
- Asks for EM suspension
I see a trend here. MM seems to be taking more control of the team and sending a clear message. If you are hard working and perform well, you are assured of your place in the starting line-up. If you are not trying, lazy you will be reprimanded.
I ask all of those calling for MM's head one question - If Bill Parcells was our head coach and did the above, wouldn't we all be saying he is a hard ass, a disciplinarian and just wants performers on the team ?
MM wants to make Buffalo into a Pittsburgh like team of blue-collared type players who play hard every day and work as a team. No living on past glory (EM), no beating your chest (WM), no lazy a$$ play (Sam), no detrimental activites (apparently Bobby Shaw)
Bottom line, MM seems to be getting more in charge around here. He would not have made all these moves if he was 'constrained' by TD or RW.
Feel free to fire away at my assessment. Don't say that a lot of conclusions based on little information. This is end actions that we all have seen that drove my thoughts.
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Exactly!
And for those who don't think Mularkey is a big part of this problem I beg you to really study and understand the psyche of the best NFL Coaches...Then I challange you to find anything in Mularkey that reflects those traits...The quieter Guys like Dungy and Belichick are cerebral...These are sharp, super sharp, Football minds who just don't get outcoached often...Sure they have, or have had, great Talent...but they make the most of what they have regardless...And maybe more importantly they do all the little things, including game Management right most of the time...
Then you have the fiery HC's...Gruden, Parcells, Cower, and even Marvin Lewis in his own way, who sell their message with passion...Well we know MM is not that type of HC...Enough said there...
Lastly, if a New GM comes in...Let the guy pick his HC...I seriously doubt a Guy who is the right Man for the Job will accept Mularkey...He's just not good enough...
And I don't understand what you mean by studying the psyche of coaches. How does one go about doing it ? It is easy to point to a losing record of a team and blame the coaches for it. But it is difficult to make that decision divorced from the talent level of the team. Truth be told, we did not keep PW but have had several key injuries on defense. NC cannot regress overnight - I think the lack of a good push at the DL has put too much pressure on the secondary and they cave in at key moments.
With the disgusting OL we have, how much creativity can a coach have to stay competitive. Our STs are very very good - do you credit April, the players, MM or a combination of all ? I vote for the combo answer.
Bottom line, we have not given MM adequate time or talent to help us understand if he is a good coach or not. On the other hand, I put a lot of blame on TD and think we need to get rid of him.
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I had suggested the same a couple of weeks back. Not sure if he has the business smarts though. Maybe he can handle personnel while someone does the business side of things. You got to give TD one thing - his negotiating skills. We do need the next GM to have that to keep the cap under control.
Ron (?) Wolf was also suggested by several on this board. Not sure where he is or if he is willing to join the Bills.
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As I could not see the game, I have a few questions about how this progressed. It sounds like EM was being double covered early on giving LE the opportunities. Was coverage really rolled to his side later ? If yes, then shouldn't EM have gotten open more often ? If he is indeed the playmaker (sorry NC), he should be able to revel in single coverage. Or was he on the bench when LE started getting double covered ? What am I missing ?
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http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=26151
Make sure you scroll down to buttleman's post for more info.
Took me a while to get my eyes off his avatar and to his post
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BANNERS/SIGNS
Banners and signs are permitted generally, but any such item deemed by management to be dangerous, inappropriate, or which obstructs the view for other guests will be removed.
Well that first line justifies the action then -
It is dangerous for TD's job and career
It is inappropriate to bash management as you fans are only supposed to support everyone associated with the Bills
And finally ... it obstructs the rose colored view of RW and shows him reality.
I have changed my mind and now support the actions of the staff against the sign.
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Now that post I agree with. I just hope RW knows about the fan discontent and gets rid of TD at the end of this season.
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...so you can move the tiresome number of posts on this board blaming Global Warming, the War in Iraq, street crime and widesspread male erectile dysfunction to Tom Donohoe.
The negativity here would be laughable if it did not make the place such a drag. And it's so plonking repetitive and whiny.
I did not realize that Jerry Sullivan had perfected cloning.
Are you also in favor of not carrying 'Fire TD' signs to the stadium ? I do not see why such posts deserve a separate sub-board. This board exists to express our collective (or individual) elation or disgust at the performance of our team.
Over the past several years, general opinions expressed on this board are directly related to future actions by the Bills. Examples: RJ will never make it in the NFL, GW does not make a good head coach, Flutie is more jazz and no substance.
I really think the 'Fire TD' semi-consensus on this board is going to result in him being replaced this coming off-season.
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So let me get this straight... People say it's ok for teams to do patdowns before entering the stadium ("If you don't like it, don't buy a ticket! They're a private company and can do what they want!!!"), but people are complaining because they can't waive a sign around. Doesn't the same argument hold true...? (ie: it's their stadium, they make the rules and if you don't like 'em, don't go).
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I am not comparing it to any other situation as I am not fully aware of the patdown details. All I am saying is that fans have a right to protest as arguably attendance is more than going therejust for entertainment. This is not like going to the movies where tickets cost a fifth of NFL games and if the movie sucks you walk out with no hard feelings. Fans take the team and its performance seriously and it has direct implication to regional businesses. Having a team is a privilege and management should be able to hear it when the team is doing well or badly. If I want to protest against the way a team is being run or the way a player is playing, I cannot walk into TD/MM's office and give my thoughts. To the average fan, the best way to advertise their feelings is through signs such as these. If fans can put up signs that say 'Bills are #1' then they should have an equal right to say 'Fire TD'.
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Someone on my other board posted this and it just really pissed me off. It did get confirmed by several people, including a couple posters that I trust (The_Philster and THATHURMANATOR)
http://boards.buffalobills.com/forums/inde...showtopic=95091
This is unbelievable - such signs should be allowed. It is not provocating or suggesting violence or obscenity. Instead of worrying about the legal ramifications or suing anybody, protesting fans should try their best to be caught by camera. This is the one time the media can help us by freely advertising fans' discontent with the administration.
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I will extend that thought to include some players as well. I have said this often that we need not chase away every non-pro bowler on this team. There are perennial under-achievers who need to be shown the door (Coy Wire, Bennie, Josh Reed) but others that we need to keep albeit with re-structured contracts (MW, EM). Bottom line, TD has to take the blame for the abysmal talent all round. Given what happened to Pittsburgh with and after TD, I really think he needs to go.
Another random thought - maybe all the gadget plays and trickery that MM is pulling is preparing for next season. He is trying things out, knowing in his heart that the team with low level of talent is not going anywhere this year. So why not experiment at this time ? Then next year if (and that is a very big if) we add real talent to the O and D, he can pull all stops and really execute on the O side.
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hence my point - if he is a very good OC, let us get him. We need some exciting offense here. Remember late 80s when we were a defensive team and went on a run cos of the new offense ? If Mariucci gets released in mid-season, I wouldn't mind getting him NOW and getting a jump start on next season.
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I believe the power brokers in SF were gone by then. He did a lot of that winning with some subpar talent in SF. Not a real good D and outside of TO, not a whole lot of talent on the offense either. Hearst was the RB, Garcia the QB, Stokes was the #2. Not an allstar group. Average to Above average yes. But, Bryant Young, Derek Smith and Ahmed Plummer where the best defensive guys.
Plus he made it to the playoffs his last 2 years there, which is why he got a 5 year 25 million dollar deal with Detroit.
Still doesn't hurt to see if he would like to be an OC for us.
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So then, the Clements issue kind of takes on new meaning I would think.
Ole' Whitey may not want to replace him as he chose him, but MM
won't let him call plays? How many OC's does that make in five years: 3?
If Clements is replaced, that would be 4 in 6 years.
Has TD had any comment on this? I expect not.
My personal thought is that TD will be gone before MM. Another idea, Steve Mariucci was an offensive coach and is obviously a failure as a HC. Considering nobody will hire him as a HC, maybe we can get him to be our new OC. As with GW (who is doing well in Washington), it may be better for SM to step down to being an OC and excel at that.
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What would all of you "I know I would be a better GM" Ok what would you do? What trades, pick ups, cuts?
I would trade Eric M. for draft picks or what ever I could get. I do not believe he wants to be here. Find a wide out that is hungry.
I would cut Big Mike, and use that money and what ever else it took to get a much better O-line in here so your young QB dose not get killed.
Draft D-line first, LB’s and then Db’s in that order.
Fine a TE that can run and is a threat in the middle, I think that will help the running game.
Thats where I would start........
- Re-structure and keep EM. Get another WR through FA that can compete for the #1 spot
- MW: keep and re-structure
- Keep NC at a cap-friendly contract
- Cut/release/whatever Coy Wire, Josh Reed, Bennie Anderson
- In free agency, bolster OL and/or DL.
- In the draft, go OL and DL in first 3 rounds (4 picks) with best available player when we pick. How many and what positions depends on who we snag in FA
- Try to find a clutch kicker (yes, I still don't trust Lindell)
John Clayton:
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I think MM is handling it well. He first said ' EM and I ahve talked' , then he suspends him for a week. He did not go public abt all his discussions. What more can you ask for ?