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Remember this game ? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...00611190htx.htm

It doesn't ? "His teammates don't have the luxury of allowing him to work through his problems on the game field. Buffalo is entering do-or-die time. Their playoff hopes are already dim. They need a spark, and Edwards has shown no indication he's ready to provide one." "The Bills are investing in Edwards as the quarterback of the future. But if they don't have him on a short leash against the Chiefs, then they're already working on 2009." Even if he didn't type those specific words, he is pretty much advocating exactly that.

Relevant interesting point-counterpoint in here: Few snippets (all quotes from these blogs) Against bail-out: GM was paying $5 billion per year in health benefits to retirees and current employees ... Bankruptcy would help GM and Ford become more competitive by abrogating significant parts of their labor contracts with the UAW... Bankruptcy may also force out the current management of GM and Ford. I do not believe the company is too big to go into a reorganization-which is what bankruptcy would involve. For bail-out: - they might be unable to attract the substantial post-bankruptcy loans that they would need to enable them to remain in business... - ...would cause bankruptcy to greatly exacerbate the nation's already dire economic condition. - The likely psychological impact of a bankruptcy of the U.S.-owned auto industry should not be underestimated -------------------------------- I am not sure where I stand on the issue. If government is propping up the banks, it is with the implicit hope that they will resume lending. So if the auto makers file Chapter 11, they should still be able to attract funding from these banks. I think the bogey is of '240,000' un-employed people. I have a tough time accepting that as the nation still needs the cars made by these companies. It is not that suddenly the Big-3 will close shop and walk away. Perhaps someone will buy them on the cheap and have then continue as a going concern.

Still losing.

I second that wholeheartedly.

I want them to go 16-0 and then lose in the first round of the playoffs on a last second GW kick by the opposing team.

Yeah more likely we will play well enough to just miss the playoffs again.

English is obviously not one of his strengths. 'there' ? However, I do appreciate the fact he thinks the fans only have one think to like (singular) but many things they don't.

The lack of a pass rush is indicative of the positive effect he has on the team. I am really waiting for him to return. And if we add another Schobel-level DE on the other side, we will have a very good pass rush. I realize the interior of the line may also need some bolstering but the ends suck right now.

Unfortunately that number appears to be on a graph sloping downward and not upward.

If you are going to be sarcastic, at least try to do a better job of it. This forum was created to discuss all things Bills and football. What topics are not open for discussion (racist, utterly condescending etc.) is up to the mods.

First you say go ahead and debate then you say don't speculate. We are not debating past events, but are certainly would like to discuss the merits or lack thereof of continuing with him as a HC of the Bills. This is certainly a very worthy discussion considering the patterns of under-performance and injuries that we have been seeing. As of right now, with uneven results through this season, there is no way to say whether firing him is a reality or fantasy. Should not stop anyone from discussing it, despite what you think. If you do not like those discussions, you are free not to participate in or read those threads.

At this point of the season, I vote for Fisher.

Only if he is willing to play center and doesn't insist on a skill position.

I have to disagree with you that Turk needs to go. In this the third season of the Jauron era, we are seeing some recurring patterns: - Offense appears to take off and be creative but suddenly regresses. - Injuries happen often, to many personnel and are quite serious. - The QB appears to be developing nicely then starts a downward slide. - Changes are made to the OL and DL but they happen too late in the season to make a difference (isn't that what an off-season and pre-season games are for ?) We are re-gurgitating the same damn excuses from last year. 'Not enough talent', 'too many key injuries', 'QB is bad', 'OC is bad'. In the off-season, I had expressed skepticism that our O will be much better than last year. My doubts were from seeing that the only changes were one rookie wideout, a new OC and an off-season of maturity for Lynch & Edwards. The early games were surprisingly good and I thought I was pre-maturely pessimistic. But, alas, we seem to have regressed to the same point as last year. Something else is wrong and I can only point the finger at Jauron and our strength & conditioning coach.

Funny (not in a 'ha ha' sort of way) that I was thinking the same way. Fairchild looked to be a good game planner in 2006 but went brain-dead last year. Why are we suffering through this deja vu ????

Earlier this season, I had hopes that the Bills would play so much better than the Pats* that even ref issues would not keep us away from victories. However, given our injuries on D (again !) and the putrid O performance (again), I am afraid we will be left blaming the officiating.

With our dearth of quality depth, we do not have the luxury to 'sit' anyone and certainly not Peters given your observations.

As compared to the experiences of the last few years with dispersed/balanced power ?

All along I was hoping each of those 36 cameras were fitted with x-ray vision lenses.

yeah yeah. just like we never defend 3rd downs. They are always 2nd second downs.

Umm. not sure if you meant this post as a joke. If you read what Jauron said, he means that he doesn't always know the NEXT team he is playing. He is concentrating on the team they are playing THIS week.

That is a very obvious goal of any DC however we don't have the personnel to do it.

Totally agree. Whoever is feeling better saying 'did anyone expect us to be 5-3 at this juncture' or 'we are still tied for first' etc. is just indulging in loser talk. Fact is we have sucked the last few weeks and yes I am including the SD game. We were a Kawika Mitchell interception away from losing that game also. I am frustrated because I see the same kind of posts, excuses and rationalization as we had in 2006 and 2007 (if not longer). Fact is we came out of the gates strong, showed character and a desire to win even if down by a lot of points. That grittiness evoked images of the dominant Bills teams of the past. Then came the Raiders game which we had a tough time winning and it all fell apart against the Cards. We then proceeded to lose to the friggin Dolphins and now to the Jets AT HOME !!! How can a fan really feel good by looking up and seeing 5-3 when just a few weeks back we were dreaming of 7-1 ? How can I see the pathetic run game, poor pass rush mediocre QB play and feel 'good' about our team ?

Not true. Ball was underthrown and he had little chance to make the grab given the tight coverage. Cannot blame the receiver on this INT