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Same here. I also thought this was not the year to switch D schemes. We should have bulked up on D & shored up our OL at a minimum this off-season. Also, going BPA is not a luxury we could afford yet. Next year we could have concentrated on switching schemes and getting a QB. It appears that with a slavish adherence to the long term view, the FO lost sight of the fact that we need to be half way competitive this season.

I did not but I suppose it was because he was always beyond the LOS where we dont throw

You have to wonder if this was a good year to change our D scheme considering we were already so low on talent. Could have taken baby steps with the D, bolstered the O a bit and we would have an overall half way competent team

Did Gailey call that TO ? I thought it was Trent. Not sure tho

I think we will now see an aggressive D

No i really think we are showcasing Lynch

Anybody know the link for the IRC chat ?

As with the pre-season I hope we bounce back from the first game debacle

With our OL and McNabb's general ineptitude and penchant for choking, we would have been no better off. Plus we would have added drama which this team certainly does not need. McNabb would be a Donahoe-type move which is little more than a marketing ploy. The good GMs know when to say no and I am firmly in Nix's camp on this one.

Funny

As a counter and if we are using one game as a judge, Spiller had 7 attempts for 6 yards rushing and 4 catches for 8 yards. So, he too wasn't ready for the NFL. So this game by itself does not prove that the Bills made the right call. The question which I struggle to answer is whether any of these latter OTs would have helped the overall offense more than the supposed playmaker CJ. Too early to judge one way or another.

Read all about it here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/119438-interesting-rumor-on-bbcom-message-board/

Or the explanation can be as simple as Nix & the Bills scouting staff not liking McNabb.

Exactly right and you forgot to add Ralph Wilson specifically also is a cheap, good for nothing, old **** (choose your cheap shot). Last year and I think the year before, there were few to none FA O linemen who could have helped the team. Add to that the ones who left the Bills to have a great career were Ruben Brown, Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield (jury is out on Nate Clements) - few and far in between if I may add. Our fundamental problem has been drafting and keeping the pipeline full. back to your regularly scheduled venom spewing..... So, in short you don't know for sure but the FO sucks anyway ?

"...should save airlines a fare amount of space,..."

Can you be specific about which OL was available, we courted and who refused to come ?

Me and my Catfish Rising tattoo disagree (and not respectfully so either).

Sadly, I don't think we have a firm answer on the roster. - Urbik played both G and T in college so he is a possibility but we don't know. Plus he is new to the team and hasn't gone through training camp. So it will be a while before he can contribute assuming he is better than Green. - As you stated, we don't know about Howard We may have to live with this situation and plan on sliding extra protection on the right side and on blitz packages, tie up another person (RB) for blitz pickup. Sad as it sounds, we may not have any option. Also, we can only hope that even with max protect schemes, Trent makes better decisions and chucks the ball beyond the marker.

Yea but we get a defensive player from that very same team and I daresay there is much more to gain by us learning their defense than they about our O.

Close on the distance and good on the direction. Would have been good from ~ 55. Best thing I liked was that we at least took that chance to score however slim the possibility of success was.

If I was not a Nix fan till then, that statement instanatly made me one.

As several posters have pointed out elsewhere, the running game will go nowhere without a passing game. Even a semblance of a passing threat can soften defenses. If this type of performance persists, it will re-open the debate about the FO's decision to go BPA versus trade-down for need.

Fair enough. Save for that one drive, you have to admit the offense stunk the entire game. The ST & D were both good but the offense was disgusting. I suppose on average that makes the overall team effort just 'bad'

we have been 'taking away positives' for a decade now. Every team in the NFL can find a way to get positives out of a loss. What does it mean ? If it means we are building towards eventual winning I am all for it. But we keep looking for silver linings but all we get are more black clouds.

Funny ain't it that you can say almost the exact things about the defense and they turned out fine yesterday. We went D heavy in free agency and in the draft but did virtually nothing to upgrade another known failing - the OL. Sure I knew that all problems could not have been fixed in one off-season but I cannot believe that there were zero options to upgrade the tackle positions. We need some semblance of an offense and right now we are down right embarrassing. It is a cop out for the regime to say that we will fix the D this year and concentrate on the O next year. So what is this season - a detour on the way to next season ? Rant over - back to my original point. I realize that the OL sucks but Trent showed nothing yesterday. No attempt to make plays, few throws beyond the first down marker. Even if he tried and failed due to lack of time, I would buy into the logic the the only thing holding him back is the OL.