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Because the mention of him retiring was prior to the Cowboys releasing him. After his release, I believe Jerry Jones said he didnt think Orton is retiring. And after him becoming a FA, there have been no reports of him wanting to retire. Do you have a link to prove me otherwise ?

You may debate this, but in my mind Woods is the #1 till the other Ws wrest it away from him in the regular season games.

Perhaps my words came out unclear. I wasn't advocating that Branch be kept. But in your list, beside the obvious two, IMHO only Charles is somewhat proven. Cohen has done well just in this preseason.

Not sure the fans were booing any one particular player. The entire first half performance was worthy of scorn coming on the heels of an underwhelming off season and addition of a lot of overall talent. If said talent doesn't show up in the team's performance on the field, then something stinks

I agree he needs to go. Now we are running a tad thin on the DT depth chart.

Very depressing first half to follow up with a very lackluster pre season.

You do make a fair point. Perhaps what I should have stated and didnt was that (1) Stevie may not be comfortable as a role player (2) His salary is too high for that position on the team I have SJ's autograph and believe he really worked hard to where he is today. But his position in the WR corps grew fast at the Bills due to their serious shortage of talent. With most teams, he would be a #3 at best.

Not directly but if our #1 WR last year is fighting for a #3 spot, it is pretty damning "There are questions in San Francisco whether Johnson has even locked up the No. 3 receiver job. Asked about Johnson's role Thursday, offensive coordinator Greg Roman simply said the team "doesn't put numbers on them."" I am not sure it is that obvious. How effective is a WR who runs his own routes and doesnt give the QB a sense of security regarding where is going and where he will be when the ball arrives ? Stevie may be able to juke CBs but he jukes QBs too. If Hogan gets playing time, I would like to see his route running, his hands and how he fights for the ball. I have seen enough of SJ to know that he cannot be the center of an offense. Role player at best.

Stevie and Fitz's passes both end up where no one expects. Match made in heaven.

Peace

Dont change the argument. Your words were, and I quote ,The point you missed is that fans of those teams are pretty happy with their QB's--no need for them to indulge in piling on a rookie QB in order to feel better about their own QB situation...." You implied fans of other teams do not care to beat up on JM cos they are secure with their QB situation. Both the Doc and I pointed out two threads on a Patriots* message board which did exactly that. You take every opportunity to belittle Bills fans who point out mistakes or deficiencies in players from other trams. Your line is that because the Bills have sucked the past 14 years, the fans should not comment /laugh at other teams' mistakes. In this case, you were called out and now are attempting to go in a tangent .

And yet, there is this thread on the PatsFan website: http://www.patsfans....-idiot.1110749/ EDIT: In addition to Doc's link above. Thats two threads on your Pats message board

Are you saying it is acceptable for an NFL player to flip the middle finger ? I think it is not. When a player is evaluated to be 'NFL ready', it is not just for his football prowess. It is combination of several factors and especially at the QB position. JM came into the league with great expectations but so did Luck, RGIII and the like. He is not dealing with some unique situation that somehow excuses himself from such immature behavior.

JM will soon realize, if he hasnt already, that playing QB in the NFL is not only about throwing the ball. How he handles himself and his game after that realization fully sinks in, will define his career.

What I understand is that reports about his wanting to retire were not substantiated. After being let go by the Cowboys, no such quotes or reports have surfaced. So I assume he doesn't mind playing. Also, he is just 31 years old so should be still good enough to hold the fort if EJ can't go. Much better option as a #2 compared to what we have and who else is out there.

Kyle Orton Signed, Broken record

I have a very basic question - how will you get the ticket on your laptop anyway ? I do the same as you - activate DirecTV only for the NFL season. But the ticket is available online-only to places which are not reached by DirecTv satellite, a few universities and a couple of states (cant be totally sure). If you can get DirecTV via satellite, it is rather unlikely that you can subscribe to the online-only package. A few years back when it was evident that the Bills were going to stink, I did not sign up for the Sunday Ticket and chose to watch via online sites. Experience was terrible - tough to get the feeds, very laggy and extremely grainy. As for the general question of how do you stream, I use Chromecast and it has been working very very well with little to no lag. I can cast Youtube and Chrome browser from tablet or phone with no problems.

Umm.. thats what Dorky Dork was saying: Bills Front 4 > 20 other total teams (in sacks)

What does this sentence mean ?

Peace.

I hate you Sarcasm ?

Don't you mean rocket surgery ?

Maybe this is semantics but hate is a pretty strong word that gets casually tossed around these days. Personally, I reserve hate for people with malicious intent such as terrorists. Rodak, Sullivan OTOH deserve criticism and scorn perhaps but not hate.

Considering that Cutler was pick #11, would you be happy seven years from now if all that EJ would have done is taken the Bills to the playoffs once ?

So does this information now make EJ the perfect QB in the eyes of the OP ?