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At 25 pages, we enter Zerovoltz territory

Thanks

I voted "both". On a related note, how soon can we extend Tre White?

Goal line packages will now have Fisher as tackle eligible and Gore at RB.

10-6 WC

Absolutely. I used to find TG"s rants in here mildly amusing. When he left, the biggest loss to this board was that if Lori. As good a poster as she was, I wish she wasn't so stubborn and loyal to leave this place for good due to the treatment some gave TG.

Hundreds? ?

McBeane went Christmas shopping on the first day and emptied half the store http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001021893/article/2019-nfl-free-agency-notable-freeagent-signings-for-each-team

And you are virtually an id***

That was my first reaction when I saw this signing. I think Shady gets traded or outright cut. And we draft a RB in 3rd or lower.

Said no one in the year 2000 ?

Nope. You implied that they did not want to be here and wanted out. The burden of proof is on you.

Your history is well known around these parts. The least we can expect is for us fans to be positive about the future and give this regime one more off season to fix the O. If we are having this conversation one year from now, by all means advocate firing McBeane

You seem to be implying that Sammy, Hogan, Goodwin and Woods wanted out or didnt want to play here. Where are you getting that from ? They were not retained (and you can blame the FO for that, as I do) but to say that their departure was due to their own unwillngness to play for Buffalo, that is plain wrong.

yes it does look different. Considering his history, I am happy it didnt go through. I wasnt disagreeing with you, btw

Maybe that was McBeane's goal heading into free agency.

We dont know the facts. You dont know the facts. And yes, you are in the minority of those who are upset and angry. I see most fans here being "meh, would have been good to have him, but comes with too much baggage to be a big issue"

It is not correct to judge Rosen based on last year. He didnt light up the league but is not a Ryan Leaf, Manziel, J Russell. If the current AZ FO is not sold on ROsen, how can they possibly be confident about Murray being the right guy ? Lets say Rosen is traded, most on this board think he wont fetch anything better than a 2nd rounder. Is it worth throwing away the next 3-4 years for that pick (if Murray is a bust) ? If they keep both for this season, worst case, one of them turns out to be a total flop and they get a very low pick in 2020 for him. Big friggin deal. That franchise is is so much trouble right now, that they cannot afford to be wrong about a QB. They have to remember Favre. They cannot be so arrogant as to think they already know which of Murray and Rosen is better.

I do understand the argument against the different styles but if they go all-in on Murray and he flames out, they are set back several years.It isnt a guarantee that he will get a QB to fit his scheme in drafts 2020+. That team will end up waiting a long long time. OTOH, if they still have Rosen around, Kingsbury may want to design a different offense while he still has a QB.I think it is way too early to get rid of a top-10 QB pick.

Serious question as I posted this in the other thread. Why not draft Murray and keep Rosen till they know who their long term solution is? Can any team risk putting their future on the line for their pre-NFL personnel evaluation?

I don't think the Cards should move Rosen this year if they draft Murray. Let both compete and decide next year which one they want to keep. I know about the "fit Kingsbury's offense" but let the entire situation play itself out. Ryan Leaf should be a constant reminder that there is always a likelihood of a major bust at the QB position. Cards may gain a second or third rounder for Rosen which will be nothing if Murray doesn't pan out. Keep both QBs, Cards. I am not commenting on Rosen's abilities but think if he turns out to be Favre part deux

are you working to re-brand yourself ? ?

I am not disputing that he didnt limp out of the gate. I also understand that Witten may be driven more by the lack of attention he used to get from the fans when he was playing. When you have done something well for very long, the accolades and the rush from a good performance can be tough to break away from. Also, he must know the fans reactions to his (non) performance in the booth and yearns to re-capture some of the old magic. However, I dont understand several things - how he will compete on the field after being away from prime action, what the Cowboys motivation is to bring him back as opposed to going young etc. Maybe we are all thinking too much about a non-Bills player well past his prime.

Our TEs over the past several years have hardly been the benchmark for competency, let alone success.

In general, yes. But in this case, it is an opportunity to upgrade the MNF booth and simultaneously hurt the Cowboys. Win-win