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Losman- 77 Mcgahee- 90 Shelton- 79 Evans- 90 Parrish- 78 Price-80 Gandy- 78 Anderson- 69 Fowler- 78 Villarial- 82 Peters- 81 Everett- 79 Royal-80 Schobel- 90 Tripplett- 86 Anderson- 74 Kelsay- 78 Spikes- 95 Fletcher- 88 Posey- 77 McGee- 86 Clements- 92 Vincent- 80 Bowen- 71 Moorman- 98 Lindell- 81 This years draft class Bush- 89 Vernon Davis- 87 This is not to say Davis is better than D'Brick or others, but his physical attributes would require his overall rating to be at least 87, with 92 spd etc. Ngata- 83 Bunkley- 82 Justice- 80 Huff-84 Cutler-79 Young-80 Leinart-83 Ferguson-85 Hawk-84 Williams-85

I've heard the Titans are deciding between Leinart and Young, so I dont think Cutler would be their selection there...

The funniest thing about the clip is the guys kicking the air then running backwords. And what did the guy expect to happen when he slapped a man. If you slap a man, you better be ready to fight. You probably shouldn't turn away from the guy... You know what, scratch that, dont slap men.

Erik Flowers was another player to soar up draft boards based on impressive workouts rather than his college play. I'll pass on Justice, especially at #8. 667256[/snapback] Ugh, I hate these comparisons that continue to be made. It seems as if guys like Bunkley and Justice are almost downgraded by some here because of their superior workouts. Justice was considered a top 15 player before his pro day. But now, because of the buzz from his workout, some people label him a workout warrior. Bunkley is actually a guy who has shot up draftboards because of his combine workout, as he was a boarderline 1st rounder in early mocks that I saw. But he was a high quality DT for FSU this year. It's not like these guys just showed up to work out off the street and there is no tape to go back to and watch. I'd rather not draft Justice 8th, as I think the most pressing need on our O-Line is at guard. So I like either Bunkley, Ngata or Huff in the first, but I wouldn't hate it if Justice were the pick there...

Did they say he tore the same acl 3 times??!!! No thank you!

This game looks pretty in depth as a strategy simulation of football. You play the coach and GM, but you dont actually play the games like in Madden. I'm looking forward to it too. Check this out: http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/nflhead...tml?sid=6146845

"(Round 1) Ngata--timed as fast as 4.84 in the 40, the biggest in the Top 10." The only way Ngata ever timed a 4.84 is if he was running down a pretty steep hill...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2361969 With the cap room added on with the new collective bargaining agreement, why dont we try and trade for Walker and sign him long term? Imagine the future with Evans and Walker at WR and McGahee at HB. You think they'd take a 2nd rounder?

Mike Williams has been our best O-lineman for the past year and a half, and while that isn't saying much, to say that he's one of the biggest busts of the 21st century is ridiculous. Has he been worth the money? No. Has he lived up to being the 4th pick? No. But he wasn't benched because of his poor performance at RT. He was injured, and Peters came in and played very well in his place. The Bills wanted to get their best 5 lineman on the field, Bennie Anderson had been playing terribly, so the Bills tried to move Williams to guard. The only thing I dont get is why we didn't leave Williams at RT, move Gandy to LG, the position he is most accustomed to, and put Peters in at LT, the position we were suposedly grooming him to take over.

I have an argument on this topic that might not be accepted by most of you. It seems to me that some of the greatest players of all time looked out for themselves before team. I think that, with these players, when they have the drive to make themselves as great as they became, there has to be some selfishness. They didn't become what they became for the team. Michael Jordan was all about himself, he would give 100% no matter what, because he wanted to win, but he won for his own competitive spirit, not for his teammates. Deion Sanders: one of the best CBs of his time, one of the best showmen of his time. Jerry Rice: Best WR of all time. If he didn't get the ball, he was pissed. That's probably why he turned out to be so great. It seems to me that champions that are selfish get off the hook. If Michael Jordan never won a championship, how would we see him today? Would he not be the guy who was a great individual player, averaging 30 ppg, but could never play within the team concept? Most great receivers want the ball and if they dont get it, they complain, I think that's just part of the mindset they have as playmakers. Now, TO is a different story, because he has openly bashed his entire organization, including the guy that's throwing him the ball. Plus, he wouldn't shut up about his contract that he signed the previous year. I just think that he's a person who's never grown up.

To me, it isn't the one 3rd and short that is the problem, it's that 90% of the 3rd and shorts that the Bills get, Shaud Williams is in the game and we dont even think about running.

Here's the entire article on McGee He earned his first set of NFL stripes on special teams, as Buffalo Bills return ace Terrence McGee posted an average of 26.3 yards on kickoff returns in 2004 and had three runbacks for touchdowns, a performance that won the youngster his first Pro Bowl berth. Now McGee is poised to earn a contract extension, not so much as a result of his kickoff-return prowess, but because the third-year veteran has emerged over the past 1½ seasons as a viable starting cornerback and a player the Bills want to lock up for the long-term. There have been sporadic discussions about a contract extension for McGee since about the middle of last season, after he assumed the starting role when Troy Vincent was first injured and then subsequently moved to free safety upon his return. But ESPN.com has learned that negotiations were ramped up this week when Buffalo proposed a four-year extension that would run through the 2009 season, and include a $4.5 million signing bonus and a total of $16.75 million in so-called "new money." Terrence McGee Cornerback Buffalo Bills Profile 2005 SEASON STATISTICS Tot Ast Solo FF Sack Int 32 27 5 0 0 2 At an average of $4.19 million over the extension seasons, those numbers were sufficient enough to grab the rapt attention of McGee and agent Terry Bolar, who had previously rebuffed offers aimed at a contract add-on. Bolar is expected to make a counterproposal to the Bills early next week and could even travel to Buffalo for face-to-face negotiations. It's fair to suggest McGee and his representative are encouraged by the offer and that the climate for consummating an extension is significantly improved. That same term, significantly improved, could also be employed to describe the play of McGee, a fourth-round pick from Division I-AA Northwestern (La.) State in the 2003 draft, and a player chosen more for his return skills than his coverage abilities. But forced into the starting lineup last season when Vincent was sidelined by a knee injury, McGee proved to be a revelation, teaming with Nate Clements to provide Buffalo with one of the NFL's best young cornerback tandems. McGee started 13 games, registered 95 tackles (the third-most by any cornerback in the league), three interceptions and 15 passes defensed, and demonstrated an innate ability to get around the football. McGee, 25, lacks the prototypical size (5-9, 195 pounds) every team is seeking now at the cornerback position, but he has a feisty demeanor, won't back down from anyone, is quick to support the run and is improving in coverage. In six games this season, McGee has 32 tackles, two interceptions and four passes defensed. While the Bills' No. 1 ranking in defense versus the pass is somewhat misleading, given that opponents have been able to successfully run at a unit that is only 30th against the ground game, the secondary has been solid, with Clements and McGee on the corners and Vincent and Lawyer Milloy manning the safety spots. Every week, it seems, McGee gets a little better in mastering the nuances of cornerback play. He attributes much of his improvement to his coaches and the veterans around him in the Bills' secondary, but also acknowledged that having the opportunity to log snaps at cornerback in the Pro Bowl, where he got to play some from scrimmage in addition to his return responsibilities, helped accelerate his personal learning curve. "It's man-to-man coverage [at the Pro Bowl], because there are restrictions on what you are allowed to do defensively, so you're just hung out there yourself most times," McGee said. "And you're working, even in practice, against the best, most [technically] gifted wide receivers in the league. You get a chance to see every route, every move, every trick these guys have. It's like a classroom on the field, a great learning experience. It added to my confidence that I can be a top cornerback. I'm sure people used to think of me mostly as a return guy and maybe say, like, 'Oh, yeah, he can play some corner, too.' You get a lot more chances to make plays at cornerback than on kickoff returns, so that's where I want to most excel. I want to be a double threat, you know?" Certainly the honors he has garnered for his special-teams play eclipse the recognition he has received at cornerback so far, but the Bills feel that McGee is a defender on the rise and a big part of their future plans. Otherwise, they wouldn't be offering him an extension worth more than $4 million per year, a pricey tax bracket that not even McGee himself could have predicted he might someday be in when he entered the NFL in 2003. Last week's victory over the New York Jets graphically demonstrated McGee's ability to make huge contributions in both areas. On defense, he had four tackles, an interception and three passes defensed. He also set up two scores, a touchdown and a field goal, with kickoff runbacks of 43 and 42 yards. Through the first six weeks of the season, McGee leads the NFL with 519 yards on 15 returns, and his 34.6-yard average is more than five yards better than the league's No. 2 kickoff returner, Darren Sproles of San Diego. The field position he can potentially provide the Bills is key, especially with the struggles the Buffalo offense has experienced this season. Coach Mike Mularkey admitted this week that the Buffalo staff has actually considered using McGee on offense in some situations. Securing the services of McGee for the long-term, particularly at a palatable price for an ascending player, is a priority of sorts for Bills officials. Clements, regarded by many in the NFL as one of the league's top five cornerbacks, and just 25 years old, is eligible for unrestricted free agency after this season. The five-year veteran has strongly hinted that he expects to be the NFL's highest-paid cornerback and Buffalo will probably have to use the "franchise" marker, at a cost of roughly $9 million for the qualifying offer, to retain their 2001 first-round draft choice. Finishing off the extension for McGee would at least guarantee the services of a young, emerging cornerback for the long-term. And for McGee, who signed a three-year, $1.217 million contract as a rookie in 2003, the extension would represent enhanced financial security as well. Without an extension, the Bills will probably use the middle-level qualifying offer for a restricted free agent, which McGee would be without an add-on, likely to be about $1.6 million, to retain right of first refusal. Under terms of the proposal the Bills made this week, McGee could essentially pocket $5.4 million more than the restricted free agent qualifying offer for '06. The tradeoff is that, with an extension, McGee would forfeit his rights to become an unrestricted free agent following the '06 campaign. But unless there is an extension to the collective-bargaining agreement, and soon, McGee would not be unrestricted anyway, since a player will need six seasons of tenure, not the current four, to be an unrestricted free agent in an "uncapped" year, which 2007 could become. McGee is progressing as a solid cornerback and, with the events of this week, contract negotiations have some positive momentum now, too. Those two components could converge into a contract extension at some point in the near future.

Wow, where did you see that? I'd love to bring him in here and plug him in at LG.

How can a team that's in the bottom third of the league have the league's 11th rusher, 12th passer, and 17th receiver? By the way, there were 5 rushers and 0 receivers with 1500 yards last year, seems like not many teams have players that are in the "upper crust". My take isn't that we were playing a great, or even good, offense, but they are not terrible. They are pretty average. I just think it's ridiculous that everyone is talking of them as if they are the Browns from last year.

Why are so many on this board acting like the Texans offense is horrendous? They have a great young nucleus of talent in Carr, Johnson and Davis. Let's look at last year's statistics: Carr G Com Att Pct Yds yds/att TD Lng Int Rat 2004 HOU 16 285 466 61.2 3531 7.6 16 69 14 83.5 Davis G Att Yds TD 2004 HOU 15 302 1188 13 Johnson G Rec Yds TD 2004 HOU 16 79 1142 6 Now their statistics from Sunday: Carr: 9/21 for 70 yds and 3 Ints Davis: 14 for 48 Johnson: 3 for 18 This was just an incredible performance by a defense that has the talent and ability to be one of the most dominating Ds in quite some time. We obviously aren't going to hold every team to under 200 yds, but if we dont end up the top D in the NFL this year, I will be very suprised.

Julius Peppers. True, we don't exactly NEED any help at LDE, but the guy is a beast and would turn our dominant defense into maybe one of the best ever.

Arrowhead?

Are you speaking of the Bills winning 6 of their last 7 games and narrowly missing the playoffs? Yeah, that was freaking horrible.

"Also, the last year is viodable with easily reached incentives, so really a five year deal. So, if his 25M number is correct, he will cost 5M per year." If the last year is voided, he does not get paid for that year, so even if the #s you have are correct, it would still be less than $5M per year. The discrepency in our total $ amount is probably due to performance based incentives, which could be anything from starting 2 games in the 5 years to going to the moon in an airplane. If you go to this link, http://www.falcfans.com/features/2005cap.html it has the cap figures of all the Atlanta falcons, and Hall's cap # agrees with what I have in my post. Anyways, I am in agreement that I would rather pay Clements than take the 9th pick and hope. But, if we are definitely not going to pay Clements, get something of value for him.

From what I've found, DeAngelo Hall's cap figures are nowhere near the 6 for $25M that you claim. Maybe that is the maximum that he could make. This is what I found. Signed by Falcons to a six-year contract. Terms of his deal were undisclosed, but he has base salaries of: $230,000 (2004); $305,000 (2005); $385,000 (2006); $460,000 (2007); $570,000 (2008); and $957,500 (2009). He also received a $12 million signing bonus, giving him cap figures of: $2.23 million (2004); $2.305 million (2005); $2.385 million (2006); $2.46 million (2007); $2.57 million (2008); and $2.9575 million (2009). That is much more manageable that what Clements is likely to want in free agency next year. Ken Lucas, who is not on the same level as Clements, got a 6 year $36M deal with $13M in signing bonus money in free agency. Gary Baxter and Anthony Henry also got double digit signing bonus's to go along with 6 year ~$30M deals. So, what will Clements demand on the open market? I dont know for sure, but it wouldn't suprise me if he wanted $15-18M in bonus money and 6 years for $42M at the minimum. So the trade for the #9 pick would definitely be the cheaper alternative. Saying all of this, I'm not sure that Clements is not worth all this money. He's 26 years old, and on the cusp of being the best CB in the league, so if we can somehow keep him on board beyond this year, get it done. But, I definitely do have a problem if we are just keeping him for this one year and then letting him leave in free agency for nothing. The Bills must either lock up Clements or trade him now.

Ok, I am really sick of the excuses that are made by some members here for Bledsoe's bad performance. Players make mistakes, it's true, but with Moulds, it will come once or twice a year. With McGahee, maybe once or twice a year. With Bledsoe, you could count on having to make up for one big mistake every game. There are many different players to blame for our losses, but Bledsoe is a key component in pretty much all of them. That's not something you should be saying about your starting quarterback. He was a liability, now he's gone and everyone needs to move on and hope that our next QB is not as big of one.

"The announcers on Fox were giving the old "they have a great future" speech you give to the losing team in the playoffs. But I think the Falcons are on the express elevator to the basement. They are stuck with Michael Vick at QB because the owner Arthur Blank loves his ass, and he sells merch and tickets. But Vick is a mediocre QB despite the Nike ads. They will keep trying to build a team around him, and he's their biggest problem!" That's ridiculous. What was McNabb's rating at 24 years of age? 78.8. Vicks? 78.1. Did McNabb take his team to the playoffs and win in his first two full years as a starter? Come on, Vick still has a lot to learn about the passing game, but he's a special player who will only get better. He may not be a prototypical QB, but he has shown that what he does helps his team win, and that's what it's all about. Do you think the duo of Dunn and Duckett would have as much success running the ball as they did this year without the threat of the play action bootleg threat? The fact is that the Falcons are on the verge of being a very very good team. Mike