BuffaloRebound

Taking Troup over Gronkowski is another in a long line of draft miscues. But Gronkowski would probably find a way to suck if we were on the Bills. This organization is that bad. As long as Ralph is the owner, we should do everything possible to get a franchise QB. That is the only thing that will compensate for how Ralph runs things.

Wilson is a horrible owner. Only argument people can make in his defense is that he kept the team here. What a guy... he's only made millions every year and seen his $25k investment appreciate to over $700m keeping the Bills in Buffalo. And he never has to put a winner on the field because everyone is afraid of losing the team. I'd say Wilson's got about the best gig going. I've seen enough to conclude we will never be serious contenders when the goal of 95% of the other team's is to win a Super Bowl, and the goal of our team is to have a nice profit margin.

That says it all. There are no excuses for not competing in the NFL except for Ralph's greed and incompetence. I know these guys make a lot of money, but playing for the Bills organization has to be extremely demoralizing. In the end, guys like Spiller and Maybin are in the their young 20's, have enough money never to work again, and are expected to put their bodies on the line for an organization that half-asses everything.

Didn't like how Peters handled his exit out of town, but hard to blame players for wanting to play elsewhere. Players bust their butts and put their bodies on the line. Unless you're a paycheck player, who'd want to play for an organization that's main focus isn't about winning championships?

The guy is clearly playing like he doesn't want to be here. We'd probably be doing him a favor by cutting him. Amazing to me the lack of character/pride in some guys. He gets paid $3-4m per year to play football. Instead of moping on the field, do what the coach tells you to do and earn your paycheck.

The offense was bad, but the defense didn't give us a chance the last 2 games. Getting down big that early basically takes Freddy out of the game. He is our best player and should have gotten a raise before Fitzpatrick.

If I were Chan, I'd keep running routes across the middle to Brad Smith and Spiller. Dudes are charmin soft. Make them earn their pay-checks.

Brad Smith needs to be cut yesterday. Guy is an f'in bum. Didn't even try to block the guy who came through to block the punt. Wish I could sulk my through $4m per year. Cut the f'in bum!!

Good analysis. I'd add to this that when your defense can't get off the field, it places a lot more pressure on your offense. Also seems like our offense starts every drive deep in our end lately.

F'em both, but can't stand watching that fat slob celebrate on the sidelines when they are pounding us.

Actually enjoyable watching Gronkowski abuse the Jets secondary. Even Revis the Great can't do anything with him. Gronkowski is too damned big and runs like a WR.

So apparently every single thing is reviewable on a scoring play? Shouldn't they just have been reviewing the catch?

When Maybin is the guy chasing him. He made Brady look like Roethlisberger.

Gronkowski is a beast. Glad we took Troup instead of the hometown kid.

I think the losing/small-time culture gets the best of a lot of guys. It shouldn't matter, but it does take a different kind of guy that appreciates playing for a city and franchise like Buffalo. Seems like more and more it is the guys who get passed over and over-looked who appreciate it, and the guys who come in with big reps fail miserably.

Major disappointment. Brad Smith too. Their heads aren't in it. Simple things like Smith making sure his foot is out of bounds when he catches the kick-off. Losing contain on the opening kickoff of the 2nd half against the Jets when our kicker got hurt trying to make the tackle. Spiller dropping a wide open bomb. It's like the guy didn't want the ball thrown to him. He couldn't even keep his balance running for the ball. You get paid millions of dollars. At least make the simple/easy plays that are out there.

Jackson should've got an extension first. He is our whole team. Other teams are finally realizing that and defending us accordingly.

Just get to 10 wins. That should be enough to get us into playoffs. Looking ahead in the NFL is foolish. We were 0-8 and playing good football by the end of the year.

Skins looked bad, but we were still getting after it. Pass rush seemed to finally be the focus. Felt we played the 1st part of the season too tentative from getting the ball run down our throats last year.

I think Luck is worthy of all the hype he's getting. Definitely nit-picking, but 2 things that might cause him to not live up to the hype in NFL are the difference between being a true student-athlete at Stanford and professional NFL QB. Guys at football factory schools are basically professionals already. Also, he seems to be a bit of a system QB. Stanford is a power-running team and Luck rarely gets in 3rd and long situations. Everything seems so controlled there and when he inevitably lands on a bad team, he doesn't have the physical tools or experience of a Cam Newton who had to make plays all the time.

Agree with most of this, but someone like Newton even Eli would have been able to complete those passes throwing off their back foot. Fitz needs to step into his throws to get zip on the ball. The problem I saw against the Giants was that Fitz was indecisive. When he gets into a flow, he knows where he wants to go pre-snap and the ball comes out of his hands right away letting him step into his throws. Too many times on Sunday, he was getting to the line of scrimmage with less than 10 seconds on the play-clock and sometimes less than 5 seconds. It didn't give him a chance to read the defense pre-snap which is his greatest strength as a QB. Don't know what the issue was with getting the plays in on time, but it took away Fitz's greatest strength and was an issue on that last pick.

Seems like they're happy just not having a team run it down our throats like last year. Playing Carrington and Johnson at OLB instead of Moats exhibits that mindset.

Love Gailey and Fitzpatrick's aggressiveness. That being said, Bills defense yesterday must've drove Gailey nuts. Sitting back and being picked apart by Manning was painful. Not sure what Moats has to do to get on the field more. He was the only guy who got close to Manning.

That play, like many others was rushed to beat the time clock. Happened way too many times yesterday. Fitzpatrick and Gailey both seemed a little indecisive. Up 14-10 and driving, Fitz took a bad sack where he waited far too long. Also think the swirling winds made Fitz lack some confidence in throws he normally makes.

Gonna have to put up a lot of points to win this game. Need some big plays from Spiller and Smith. Maybe this will be Smith's break-out game in his old stomping grounds.