BuffaloRebound

So the choices are trade back into 1st for Clausen, Tebow, or McCoy. Or trade for Campbell, Vick, Thigpen, Roethlisberger... missing anyone?

My main concern with Clausen is that Notre Dame is a unique place. Most if not all of the guys playing on Notre Dame have a good head on their shoulders and probably have good prospects in life even if they don't play in the NFL. 95% of the guys playing in the NFL are not like that. The NFL is a much less forgiving place and I worry about Clausen being able to command the respect an NFL QB needs. What may have worked at Notre Dame may not have worked at Florida, USC, and other football factories which more resemble what it's like in the NFL. He's a better QB than Losman, but I worry he has some of the same personality traits as Losman and playing at Notre Dame masked that.

Boom: Golden Tate Jerry Hughes Cody Bust: Clausen Rolando McClain Anyone drafted by the Raiders

It means he's not going to take a guy not ready to contribute right away, like Maybin, Pierre-Paul, Anthony Davis. My guess would be the pick is between Spiller and Dan Williams, if Okung and Trent Williams are gone. Impossible to know if Clausen is the pick because it will totally depend on Gailey and Nix being sold on Clausen's intangibles.

Agreed. Nix's specialty is college scouting and the draft. He will take the Best Player Available and someone who can play right away at #9.

Agreed on Clausen. Came off immature and uncomfortable. Don't think he is talented enough to get away with that in an NFL locker room. I also don't think he would have got away with that at a USC, Texas, or Florida either. Street/toughness factor is lacking at Notre Dame and I think he is in for a rude awakening in the NFL.

Wow. Roethlisberger is a piece of garbage. If I was that girl's father, I'd take a baseball bat to his knees and handle the suspension myself.

At least he won't be retiring at age 26 to be a teacher. Don't think it takes much book smarts to be a running back.

Yes. I'll take the judgement of Shanahan, Carroll, and Holmgren over anyone in our organization or on this message board. I especially think if Clausen gets past Carroll and Seattle, that says the most. No one knows him better besides his own coaches than Carroll.

Assuming St Louis takes Bradford, that leaves 7 teams before the Bills. 3 arguably have a franchise QB or have invested a lot in a QB the last year (Detroit, KC, Tampa). That means 4 teams in need of a QB would have to pass on Clausen. If he's that good, he doesn't get past those 4 teams. If he does, that means Shanahan (basically already passed by taking McNabb), Carroll (who recruited him in high school and played him every year), Holmgren (known as a QB guru), and the Raiders didn't think he was a franchise QB. Basically, if he's deserving, Clausen won't be there at 9.

How about Vick, Spiller, and Gaither? And you still have all your draft picks from the 3rd round and beyond.

I don't see how the Bills draft him at #9 and keep Kyle Williams. If he's the 9th pick, he better be playing the majority of the snaps.

It's more than just the offensive line and QB. The entire offense sucks. Fred Jackson was the only guy who could do anything, but he's not a home run threat. Evans is one-dimensional. Nelson has some potential at TE. Playmakers at WR and RB are as big of a need as QB and OT. If Spiller is the best player available at #9, pull the trigger.

I'm starting to come around to this. Kindle, Pierre-Paul, Graham, kid from GT. We should have the pick of all of them. Historically, 9th pick seems to be in the sweet spot range for pass rushers...Freeney, Demarcus Ware, Merriman. Pierre-Paul is pretty intriguing. Kid is an athletic freak. I know he's only played 1 year, but he'd probably be a top 5 pick otherwise. This is where having a guy in charge with Nix's experience should help. I'm sure he'll be highly skeptical and cover all bases with a guy like Pierre-Paul.

Give them Edwards. Whitner has more value than Campbell.

Just don't think Claussen and Buffalo are a good match. Not really an indictment of his playing ability, just don't think he'd take to Buffalo and vice versa. Tebow who be perfect if he could throw.

I agree with this. Bruce lined up over the Center a lot in passing situations and took advantage of his ridiculous 1st step. I also remember Bruce lining up wherever he thought the weak link on the offensive line was. There were many times when he wanted no part of Munoz or Richmond Webb and lined up somewhere else. Can't really do that in a 4 man front. It was a lot easier to shove Jeff Wright to a different gap.

If Shanahan and Holmgren don't want Claussen, I don't know why the Bills would. He doesn't strike as a Buffalo kind of guy either. I have no problems with a trade for Campbell, OT/DT in Round 1 and Tebow in Round 2. Campbell is the starter and use Tebow as a halfback and short yardage/goal line QB.

I don't think it's possible for the Eagles to have handled this any worse. For McNabb to end up with a division rival for only a 2nd round pick is crazy. The Pats got a 1st rounder for Bledsoe, and McNabb is playing at a much higher level than Bledsoe was.

I'd rather gamble on Tebow than the 3rd or 4th best OT. Nothing is a sure bet, and if Nix/Gailey believe in Tebow, pull the trigger. At worst, he'd be an excellent halfback and short yardage QB for the 1st two years. Maybe trade down a few spots, pick up at least another 3rd rounder, and take Tebow. The 3rd or 4th best OT isn't turning this franchise around.

4.) I think Spiller becomes the target of a lot of teams after the first 6-7 picks, where the contracts are too big for RB's. Raiders already have a bunch of backs and a similar and high-priced player in McFadden. Lots of internet chatter that Bills are interested in Spiller.

Didn't the Saints and Jets do a deal where if Vilma re-signed with the Saints, the draft pick went from a 3rd to 2nd? Do that with the Eagles. 3rd rounder in 2011 that could become a 2nd rounder if McNabb re-signs.

I agree with most of this post, but why be so quick to give up our 2nd rounder? The Eagles have to get rid of McNabb now. McNabb also has no incentive to sign an extension with the team he is traded too, especially with us or the Raiders. Rent him for a year for a 2011 conditional 3rd rounder that could climb to a 2nd or 1st rounder if we make the Super Bowl.

I agree. This is hilarious seeing Philly botch this completely. At this point, I'd give Philly a conditional 3rd in 2011 that could become a 2nd rounder. Kind of like what the the Jets did with Favre.

Bills definitely in a good position. Sometimes patience pays off. Eagles are handling this horribly.