BuffaloRebound

Supply and demand. A QB who falls to pick 10 is not in high demand. You also had Watson still available at pick 10 so you still had some supply. It's why Cleveland probably got the better deal at 12, since only one of them was left.

Certainty helps the Giants too. If there's 2 or 3 teams with different deals on table, it makes it harder for Giants to have a completely well thought out plan for what they're gonna do with the picks they get. Do the deal now and Giants have 5 weeks to prepare for who exactly they want to pick with all those picks. Yes, you can have contingency plans for different scenarios but there's still value in knowing exactly what your picks are gonna be 5 weeks out instead of 1 day.

If I'm the Giants, I insist on next years 1st if I'm passing on a QB this year. 12, 22, and next years 1st should get it done, unless Jets are so desperate they'd give up next years 1st to move up a spot.

I don't think we'll have to pay a giant premium to trade up to #2. It's in the Giants interest as well to not let the Jets get the 2nd best QB.

If next years 1st rounder is included, all I'm giving is the three 1st rounders and keeping the other picks. Next years 1st rounder could easily be a top 5 pick with a rookie and McCarron at QB. I'm sure Beane is smart enough to sell it that way. If we kept Tyrod, it'd be a different story.

Maybe but you have to assume Jets are not completely out of their minds. Desperate, yes. Spending that kind of draft capital on a RB when McCown and Bridgewater are your QB's makes the Watkins trade-up look like a stroke of genius.

Anybody who believes Jets gave up three 2nd rounders for a RB who might not be available at 3 is a fool.

It's looking more and more that Jets are in complete desperation mode. They were all in on Cousins and he took less money from Vikings per the Peter King MMQB article. Giants at 2 basically blocks them from ensuring they get one of their top 2 choices at QB. Trading three 2nd rounders to move up to 3 was a panic move. It will take nothing less than next years 1st rounder to get higher than 3 as Giants will not be helping them out without a pound of flesh. Before McCagnan does that, Jets ownership would be wise to fire him.

Very possible it's now worth less since a team going after a QB just traded a whole lot more draft capital than they received to a team whose not taking a QB. That means less trade capital searching for a QB trade-up.

How would it set our team back years? You can argue that pick 12, 56, and 65 are completely house money. Pick 12 is basically Cordy Glenn plus s trade down that netted you a top 10 CB. Pick 56 is the ghost of Sammy who we wouldn't have resigned anyway. Pick 65 is Tyrod who was replaced with a cheaper AJ McCarron. Oh, and we ended a 17 year playoff drought last year all while getting the salary cap in good shape.

It'll be interesting what point value the Giants want for 2. The Jets really have nothing left to give now except next years 1st rounder. Even if Jets give up this years and next years 3rd rounders, that barely gets you to 2600 points. Bills have more draft capital than Jets and more flexibility in how to get there for a team like Giants with a lot of needs. 12, 22, 53, and 65 - that's 4 starters for the Giants. Edwards/Smith/Vea at 12, Guice/Michel at 22, and then 2 more starters with our picks and 2 more with their high 2nd and 3rd rounders.

I do actually believe Beane wasn't ready to get into the top 5 for one of these QB's, hence the Jets-Colts deal. Beane still has the 12 to 6 to 2 route when he is ready.

But what's changing between now and the draft? The Jets weren't gonna pull their offer. Beane has the draft assets to outbid the Jets. If the only hangup was Indy not wanting to drop too far down, Beane could've got to pick 7 or 8 in the next few weeks. Only reason I can see for Colts to take Jets offer now is that Beane said he's never offering anything close to Jets offer.

I didn't read all 44 pages so forgive me if this was already covered, but what was the motivation for the Colts to take the Jets deal now if Bills truly wanted the pick #3 as well? Beane could've got to pick 7 or 8 in the next 6 weeks before the draft if Indy's hang up was dropping down that far. The price only would've went up if you had 2 teams who wanted the pick.

I don't think Rosen has a high floor. A lot of questions with Rosen starting with his ability to avoid the pass rush and concussions and ending with his love for the game and ability to lead an NFL huddle.

I could be wrong, but I just don't see teams trading up and taking Rosen in the top 5. He's talented but there's way too many questions about him. In addition to the concussions and ability to avoid NFL pass rushes, it's not a good look when he has to spend all his time in interviews defending his love for the game. I've got no problem with players speaking their minds and having interests outside of football, but I just think GM's will roll the dice on Darnold and Allen first at the top of the draft. I also think Mayfield will be taken before Rosen.

I don't see any path to the 2nd pick for the Bills. Giants will be able to shake the Jets down for a couple 3rd rounders like 49ers did last year with Trubisky. And Giants will still get Barkley at 3.

Hat tip to the Jets. They had to do this before Bills got ahead of them. Hat tip to Beane as well for making the Jets give up three 2nd's. Indy should be sending Bills a thank you note. They're still gonna get Chubb or Nelson and picked three 2nd rounders.

What happened to that crazy white LB from Clemson on their national championship team in? Let's bring him in.

'That time I killed 2 people' was off-limits in the interview.

Agreed about the Giants. Can't see them trading out of 2 before Cleveland picks. Indy is a different story. That's why I think Beane gets to 3 and then has deal in place with Giants if Barkley is gone.

Not buying this. Beane said he already knows there were guys who weren't gonna be available at 21, so that's why they traded up to 12. You need to have a good idea what you're doing in the draft before you go after free agents, especially at QB. Do they need to meet all the QB's families and go on a few dates first? Beane probably has 95% of the info he needs to make his QB selection right now.

Nobody is trading a #1 pick next year to Indy for possibly their 3rd choice at QB. Jets only do that trade when Indy is on the clock and their guy is still there. Nobody is gonna trade up before knowing what the Bills are gonna do because Bills have the ammo and the will to do whatever it takes. We are the 250 pound MMA fighter standing next to the pretty girl at the bar. You can try and talk to her but it's probably not worth it. Hence the Jets signing McCown and Bridgewater and Arizona signing Bradford and Glennon.

I'd be shocked if we don't go up and get a QB, but worst case at #12, one of Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edwards are there.

A lot of signals Bills are trading into the top 5 for a QB, but this might be the most obvious. Rookie QB's best friend is a vet RB.