BuffaloRebound

How do you know the Giants didn't tell the Bills not to blow all their draft capital getting to 3? If Darnold goes 1, maybe the Giants would rather have 12 plus 22 and a first next year than 3 and a couple 3rd's. If I'm the Giants and I'm not taking a QB, I want a 1 next year more than I want the 3rd pick.

It's believable but I'm sure there's an agenda to it.

I think 12 is too high for Jackson, but I guess you have to over-draft QB's. 12 is a good spot to take Allen, but if 4 QB's go before 12 a Blue chip player like Derwin James or Roquan Smith will be there. I'd take Allen at 12 first, then if all 4 top QB's are gone, I'm taking one of blue chip position players that fall.

Still don't understand the Jets giving up the farm 6 weeks before the draft for pick 3. It's very possible whoever they wanted at 3 would've been available at 6. Its also very possible they still get jumped by the Bills at 2.

This means nothing. Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. Any QB they take at 1 is sitting the first 10 games at least. Stanton will be Tyrod's backup this year and Darnold's backup next year.

Starting to agree with your opinion of Rosen. I think he's a more injury-prone Jay Cutler with less arm talent.

Not sure it has anything to do with doing a deal with a friend, but more about not spending all my draft capital for 3 when I have a shot at 2. Clearly the Jets were in desperation mode and the Giants were not an option for them.

It makes no sense for Bills to leak this info. Just let's Giants and Browns know we're desperate. Perhaps it's all a smokescreen and Jackson or the guy from Oklahoma St are the real targets.

I'm leaning more and more to keeping the picks. We can get 4-5 quality starters and get a QB like Jackson or Rudolph whose chance of succeeding is not that different than the top 4. The Browns and Jets are the only sure bets to take a QB in front of us. If Denver passes on QB at 5 which I think is probable, I think Rosen or Allen make it to 12 anyway.

Keep the picks. I don't think any of these QB's are worth trading a crazy amount for. I'd take any of Chubb, Nelson, Barkley, Smith, Edwards, Ward, Fitzpatrick, James, or one of the top 4 QB's at 12. At 22, I'd take Ridley, Evans, one of the DT's, or Lamar Jackson. And we still have 3 more picks in the top 65. This could be a draft that nets you 4-5 top line starters. I'm not giving the majority of that away for a QB that is nowhere close to a sure thing.

I don't think he's a guy you trade up for. If he gets past Denver, he could fall to 12. Same with Rosen but for different reasons. I could see Darnold go 1, Mayfield 3, then Denver taking Rosen or Allen, and then 1 of those 2 dropping.

What's it worth then? For a GM who's not sure he's gonna be around in 2 years, it's probably worth even less than 65th pick right now.

Next years 1sts cancel out. So you're left with 6, 38, and 65(1st rounder 2 years out) versus 12 and 22.

You just posted the RG3 trade was most given up in modern history. The Bills three 1st rounders would be equal or more than what Redskins gave up because one of their 1st rounders was 2 years out. If every year out gets discounted by a round, that's a 3rd rounder. The difference between 6 and 12 might make it a wash, but 12 and 22 this year and a likely top 10 pick next year would be right up there with most capital given up.

This is why I'm starting to think there's no way Beane trades with Giants. Two 1sts this year and a 1st next year (Vegas has Bills as 4th worst odds to win Super Bowl next year) would probably be the most trade capital ever given up. Can't see Beane making that trade for any of these QB's.

Starting to think only 2 QB's go top 5 and that's because Jets panicked and traded up to 3. With no other trades into top 5 which is totally possible, my guess is 1. Darnold; 2. Chubb; 3. Mayfield; 4. Nelson; 5. Barkley. Building a good OL for Darnold is more important than taking a win-now RB.

I think 8 is a good spot. Chicago doesn't have a 3rd rounder. Pick 65 probably gets it done now. Guarantees you one of the top 4 QB's, Chubb, Nelson, Barkley or one of the 2 LB's.

It's all upstairs. Some guys like Brady have the latest Intel processor and some have a Tandy processor.

Hughes with 2 years $15m total left on his deal is worth at least a 2nd rounder maybe more.

They're appeasing their fanbase that they would've taken Darnold if he was available trying to show they did their due diligence on QB's but nobody other than Darnold was worth prematurely ending Eli's career with the Giants.

I don't either, as Giants will want a 1st next year, but they're not getting more than three 1sts if I'm Beane. Giants can take Barkley at 3, win 10 games next year, and try to find Eli's eventual replacement next year with the 23rd pick in the draft. Or they can take Roquan Smith at 12, Derrius Guice at 22, still win 10 games and have the 23rd and 7th pick overall next year.

You have to have your line in the sand on the most you'd give up and that's mine. I'd give up both 2nds this year instead of next years 1. With McCarron and a rookie at QB, winning 8 games would be a small miracle. More likely this is a 5-6 win team probably worse. I'll keep all my picks and go with Jackson or one of the top 4 who slips.

If I'm the Giants, I absolutely want a 1st next year if I pass on a QB this year. If I'm the Bills, three 1st rounders is all I'm giving up. If Giants want next years 1st, which could be a top 5 pick, no way I'm throwing in anything else.

Good way for Giants to justify a trade down to the part of their fan base that wants them to take a QB. 'We would've taken Darnold but he was gone.'

Im not seeing accuracy issues with Allen. The difference between 56.2% and 60% is 1 completion per game. That's 1 checkdown vs a guy trusting his arm and zipping the ball down the field. Guys with accuracy issues don't make the throws he did against Iowa in what gets panned as a bad game for him. I'd go Darnold 1st in this draft because he has the upside to be a top 5 QB and a higher floor than Allen. Allen would be my number 2 because his upside is highest and Rosen and Mayfield have a high bust factor also.