BuffaloRebound

Right. So shouldn’t Pegula pay for the stadium or at the very least the bump in what Bills will be valued at with new stadium? That’s the government’s negotiation side and hard to argue with. The only leverage Pegula has is threatening to move the team.

MetLife got zero public money but your point still stands. This is a once in a century opportunity for Western NY. Between all the infrastructure money that will be looking for a home and NFL owners applying pressure for new stadium, the region could be beneficiary of a game changing investment.

Agreed when it comes to Buffalo. Put it in Niagara Falls with some nice hotels and with the Canada side, you have a venue that could land a super bowl and compete for a lot of high level events. Every new stadium built in the last 15 years came with the promise of a super bowl. That should be the barometer on whether a new stadium is worth throwing tax dollars at. If NFL won’t commit to hosting super bowl there, don’t put taxpayer money into it.

There’s basically zero economic benefit to anyone other than Pegula/NFL to building a new stadium in Orchard Park. And the Bills aren’t going anywhere so that threat is hollow.

That’s the only place in WNY that could come close to justifying building a new stadium and the price tag that comes with it. Nobody is clamoring for a new stadium in Orchard Park other than the NFL owners. The Bills aren’t going anywhere. Pegula and NFL have zero leverage. The Austin rumor tells you how bad their negotiating position is. Any taxpayer money spent on a new Orchard Park stadium is just asking the current people going to the game to spend more money when the vast majority are happy with current game day experience.

It’s not about Niagara Falls being much of a city, it’s that it’s a destination. The Canadian side is already Super Bowl caliber in terms of hotels and attractions. You spend $1billion on the American side and you’re talking about a world class destination and that stadium would have high profile events year round. Put it in Orchard Park and it’s the same thing as current stadium except higher prices for people who were already attending the 10 Bills games per year.

Spending a billion for an Orchard Park replacement is absurd. Put it Niagara Falls and you’d get a Super Bowl and compete for anything that Detroit and Minneapolis get in their stadiums. If we’re talking a billion dollars and public funding, building something new in Orchard Park is a complete waste of money. Let Pegula and NFL pay for new stadium in Orchard Park.

In terms of leverage, it’s pretty much all on the govt negotiators side. Bills fan base has elevated their game to legendary status. NFL would take a huge hit moving team out of WNY. The problem with spending that kind of money for something new in Orchard Park is that it provides minimal revenue upgrades over the current situation. If your gonna spend close to a billion dollars on a stadium in WNY, the only way it could ever make any financial sense is putting it in Niagara Falls.

This article by a Carucci provides great perspective. It’s really the only leverage the owners have in negotiations for public money. Not defending Pegulas, but not ready to bring out the pitchforks yet either.

Agreed about it being a negotiation tactic, but it’s not a good look for the Pegulas. Bills mafia/fan base has reached legendary status nationwide. Don’t mess with a fan base this loyal. Stop listening to Jerry Jones.

I also saw Bruce during his playing days at the old Pier waterfront bar. Didn’t look that tall but dude was built like a tank. Barrel-chested would be an under-statement. He was there with Ted Washington who was one of largest human beings I’d ever seen.

Yeah. If 18 guys aren’t vaccinated and it’s reasonable to assume the huge majority of those 18 feel comfortable about making the 53 man roster, that 80% number dips in a hurry come cut down day. Hey at least we’re not in Washington’s boat, but latest numbers were half the teams with 90% vaccination rates. For a team with legit Super Bowl aspirations, it’d be a lot better to be in the 90% plus crowd.

Jeez. Barely at 80% with a 90 man roster isn’t great because you know the bottom of the roster is most likely vaccinated or they’d already be gone.

Surprised how much they passed the ball. Mostly screen passes and quick hitters over the middle, but outside of that it surprisingly resembled modern football. Put on a tape of NBA basketball at the same time, and it doesn’t even look like the same game.

He’s probably got decent trade value if he’s willing to play for $7m this year. Bet New England could get a 3rd for him if he’s not demanding a new contract from acquiring team.

Can’t see Bills trading for a guy who wants to be paid $20m+ per year before they deal with Josh’s contract

I think we dodged a bullet when he chose KC. He got his big payday and hasn’t had a productive year since 2017.

I’m sure he wants another crack at an NFL gig, but throwing your former boss under the bus even if true isn’t the way to do it.

Eagles save $5m in cap space cutting Ertz. They avoid paying his $8.5m salary which is non-guaranteed but then incur an extra $3.5m in future year bonus amortization. I can’t see Beane giving up a 4th without Philly picking up at least half of Ertz’s $8.5m salary. That means Philly would need to make other moves to get under the cap.

Why would Philly pay any of Ertz’s salary? They only have $2m in cap space. And I can’t see Beane giving up a 4th or 5th rounder for a couple million in cash and salary cap room.

His re-structured contract is basically untradable for the Bears. $38m in dead cap... even spread over 2 years is insane. Acquiring team would only have $2m cap hit for Mack in 2021. Not happening.

I don’t know. At first I thought it was the son of the guy who posted the video. He’s wearing baggy sweat Pants and a big sweatshirt and still looks little.

I’d be surprised if he weighs more than 250lbs right now. He can’t play at that weight. Probably why he hasn’t been in Buffalo.

He was good last year for Patriots before he got injured. Better than anything we had in the backfield, but a 30 year old RB coming off knee surgery isn’t the most wise signing.

But his entire 2021 salary is guaranteed and Bills are already up against cap in 2021. It’s actually better for Bills to pay him to stay home than to cut him.