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well to be fair, they had little respect for edwards, little respect for the receivers he was throwing too, and apparently little respect for the line that was supposed to pass protect for the un-respected qb throing to the un-respected receivers. turns out they were apparently on to something.

in most cases, football retards run in packs. there's good-natured ribbing, there's not-so-goo-d natured ribbing, and i don't think most people have an issue with that. i wore my bills stuff to new england and took the commensurate ration of crap, and responded in kind. however, some guys are total d-bags who seem unable to handle alcohol and football. they tend to think it's hysterical to trash talk some guy walking along with his kid (i was at the game with a buddy and his son, both wearing dolphins gear). some of the comments were out of line. course, they've got 17 beers in their snout and typically have 5 drunk buddies with them. it's cowardly, in my humble opinion.

i was at the game, honestly wondering how we were going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. i mean, i figured it could happen, eventually would happen, but as i sat there thinking how we had a different line with a different offensive coordinator literally an hour earlier--i figured something had to give. turns out it was mckelvin, and honestly i was surprised it played out like that. i figured we'd get a hold, a stumble and a fumble--but no. the best part was the many, many suicidal pats fans around me just prior to that happened. calling for brady's head, screamining belichick had lost it------well, none of had me fooled. it's easy to win in the nfl.

yeah i figured, just messing around. the picture was really small when it loaded here. i did some quick research and see you had a great opening night. also saw you won quite a few more before hanging it up in '95. good stuff.

the picture is pretty small...yet....is that tony danza?

other than the fact that your entire premise is based on conjecture and a false comparison, i can come to no other conclusion than raping a dog is worse than killing a human.

'67--great stuff there, sorry to see you go. i certainly wouldn't post my real name one way or the other, and especially if i played for the team. What good would it serve? I read alot of these posts and like everyone else enjoy reading certain posters more than others, especially those who seem to have a good grasp of the schemes and 'real' football. I for one don't have that type of experience, so it's helpful at times to read something outside the traditional channels. the other side of it, though, the darker side of the board always puts me on edge. it's easy to type in something very derogatory and insulting about a player, i just don't really get what someone gets out of that. caveat--now---a guy like vince wilfork comes in and tries to blow out a knee, like many belevie he did with Losman, well, I thought that was a pretty dangerous thing to do. i reserve the right to mutter obscenities all day long. i reached out to a guy who used to play qb for the Bills, he works for the same company I do--and you couldn't meet a nicer guy. we never met personally but he was kind enough to send my then 8 year old son an autographed picture that hangs on his wall to this day, and my son is 15. i also had the opportunity to meet al bemiller many times back in the day when he was a ref for high school wrestling. seemed like a good guy, and as kids we all looked up to him. anyway, i think everyone wants to see the bills get back on the winning side of things, and passionate for the team brings out the ebst (and worst) in people.

hence the argument re: the risk owner's take from a financial perspective. i'd think it's a major part of the thought process a team goes through when evaluating a player like jason peters.

that piece on sanchez was just soft. no discussion on pros/cons from last year, no discussion on inconsistencies in his game, nothing about per-season year to date. the leadership angle is fine, but that's about all he's got. and the dolphins doing everything well? even couched the way he did, it's pure fluff. in truth, the dolphins tanked last year after winning the division the year before. the jets certainly weren't world beater most of last year, though they went on a pretty nice run last year. oh--and the part about 0-16 is absurd. tough to build it back up when you suck that awful bad.

all of this is very true. buffalo has been a qb graveyard these past few years. of course, that doesn't mean we ride this pony until it's dead if it doesn't work out, but let Chan make the call and see where we end up. and while the initial poster referenced the defensive alignments, it was also the first pre-season game. they seem to have improved offensively each game from a timing and flow perspective, which seems to be the whole point. at a minimum, the first game is NOT a road game against one of the dominant teams of the past decade days after the OC was fired and the line blown up.

Some things aren't worth being insulted over. His "analysis" is that SD wants to teach him a lesson? Soap opera journalism minus the journalism.

i think chan didn't go far wnough with these dickwads...he and trent should go down to where these guys work and knock them garbage cans outta their hands.

not really. i think you're confusing them with "flag", where there is less contact. kurt warner was in a touch football league just before he got back to the nfl and his career exploded. touch leagues are the new D-1's.

where does the part about the coach (a man with some qb developmental pedigree by all accounts) has the guy who hit the easy 49.3 (good stuff, btw SJBF) yard pass play pencilled in ahead of Brohm? Don't get me wrong, it's great to know that play's like the one Trent made aren't nearly as difficult as they seem when you watch 'em on the telly--but I'd have thought by now Chan would have seen through all the easy stuff Trent can do and gone to option #2. it seems to me at this point in the season---non-contact practice, training camp, and two pre-season games, CG has Edwards at the top of the charts. Is it a chart similar to the kids in 16 Candles---"I'm king of the dipshit..."? Maybe, but it is what it is. Oh, and it was a beautifully placed ball, and I'd like to see more of that this year. No need to minimize the play. i remain firmly in the "figure it out Chan" camp. Develop Edwards, develop Brohm, whatever. Just field and offense and win some games. I've waited this long, I can wait one more year to be competitive.

word. what he said was 100% true, and you have to be working pretty hard to assume that what CG said enables Trent in some way (as was pointed out a few threads back). and honestly, absent the context provided by knowing the discussions CG is having with TE privately, in a professional setting----reading anything more into this is pretty hard to do. perhaps he's lighting TE up for his performance last week, privately. perhaps he threatened to take away the number one spot, or maybe he thinks it's a work in progress. oh, and i loved this part of his statement: And I have to give him enough opportunities' yes, 100%, yes.

Promo, you were an optimistic robot when I was a kid. That in itself is rare, as most robots of the day lacked the capacity for optimism and emotion in general. Today's robots pretty much want to destroy mankind as we know it. So, if we lose you, where are we? Here's the right way to look at it: Chan Gailey's strength as a coach is to take the people he has and design and offense to maximize their potential. He's also overseeing a transition to a new defensive scheme. Several of his penciled-in starters were not on the field for any of Friday's game on both sides of the ball. He's got his benchmark, he didn't like what he saw and it's back to work. There may well be time to panic, but this surely is not it.

absolutely! you nailed it. the key is "if". if revis can guarantee the following, i bet the jets would surely pay him all he wants: that he's the best cornerback in football and the jets can't win without him; that he's the best player in football and the jets can't win without him; that he's can stay healthy throughout the year; that he can deliver a super bowl to the jets faithful and that they definitely can't win without him; and the most important guarantee of all: that the jets would reap oodles more cash with him than they could without him. "if". if is big business in the nfl.

i think you're underestimating the ability of the average fan to sort through these situations and formulate their own opinions. the owner can say all he wants, as can the player, but that doesn't mean we have to believe it. fair has never had anything to do with it. it never will. if everything was fair, you wouldn't need a contract, and scott norwood would have made the kick, and i'd have had a great career with the bills. and for every rich owner there are dozens of wealthy-beyond-belief players with otherwise unremarkable life skills. i can appreciate the concern about taking care of former players and their expenses, and while i'd stop short at calling it exploitation, i'd certainly agree that all parties----owners, union, current players and retired players with wealth should be able to figure out a program to help their own. like any negotiation, however, the owners agreeing to carve out a boatload of much needed relief to former players has to take every other element of their business into consideration.

well, one little difference is the contractual language involved, but if you can get past that it's the same thing. the player risks. the owner risks. one good year doesn't guarantee another. the jets benefit from revis, revis benefits from the jets. and on and on. maybe a lockout will help fix the system.

all true. but, the way it played out, they caught fire (and the breaks you mentioned above) at the right time and it went the way it did. looks to me like they retooled for a run this year.

i like the ride the bench scenario. i think some fans see the negotiations as one-sided in favor of ownership. revis has to do what's right for him, etc etc. i see that logic, given the violence of the game, but also see the risk the team takes in awarding large guaranteed contracts to players under the theory of "Look what I did last year!". Revis plays in aggressive, attack-oriented defense run by a coach with a defense-oriented mindset. The significant question for me would be---did the player make the defense or did the defense make the player? i'd think there's a high probability that it's somewhere in the middle. So, there's potential risk and reward for both parties. I'm also of the mind that it is not, nor will it ever be a straight line transaction between "You were the undisputed best at your position last year, thus you should be paid the most". Too many factors---other players to consider, injuries that can cut a career short, the attitude of the player, the general condition of the team as a whole, etc. One thing is clear to me---while the jets have been angling for a Super Bowl run this year, there are a lot of moving parts that could crash down around them. Charismatic coach (and there is a fine line between charisma and crazy), talent-laden team, many new faces, some old jets locker room heros shown the door... This is the type of problem than can impact the team negatively and that's allllllll good for Buffalo fans.

webby, i can forgive the quotation marks around "schools" , i can understand your irrational accusations of extremism as you baste in your own far-flung ideology, and i can forgive your questioning of his degrees---but for the love the very God you mentioned....you owe it to yourself to make sense: If someone was to deny that George Bush wasn't the least intelligent president would mean that they agree he was, and thus they would be agreeing with you. For my vote, I think you've been lead around by the nose by whatever media outlet convinced you W was a dimwit, but I'd grant you that, say Bill Clinton is intellectually more blessed than GWB. At the same time, Bill Clinton's self-destructive tendencies made him particularly vulnerable as a president and posed a substantial threat to our national security.

Three words: Miami Dolphins It's only two years ago they had a pretty good run. oh, yeah, almost forogt------the third word is "blow".

i think they call it tea bagging in that scenario.

you reap what you sow.