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I've got you down in the "Maybe, but probably not..." column, Andrew.

I think it has sort of a cool kick to it. "Yeah man, he hit him square on the jaw--the guy was shoulder toast!". "Say it to my face bro...you'll be shoulder toast!". "Wait 'til your father gets home--then you're shoulder toast!". "Breh, he wiped out. Total shoulder toastage!"

It’s just slippage, really.

And of course, if he represented the like sent accurately, we could certainly discuss the rumor. The problem is he’s deliberately misrepresenting what he’s linked to. Why bother, really?

The record is clear, Fiberius.

Not true. Joe Biden was a truck driving missionary working special ops with Winston Churchill in Algeria in '98-99. There was no need for him to time travel, he was there. Rumor is he's Khelif's father, hooked up with her mother after getting into an Algerian sword fight behind the library at the local middle school. Imane Khelif is actually the new smartest person he knows, something about chromosomal co-mingling.

The market does...what the market does. Economic data, interests rates, unemployment, adversity, housing starts, oil, foreign markets, corruption, truth, fiction and a whole lot of screaming heads constantly telling us the world is at the precipice. For those of us not in the midst of concern about sequence of returns, with a sensible plan that deals in years/decades....optimism is the order of the day imo.

I think reasonable people should consider all parties to the action, the various moving parts and time frame involved. Putin is certainly a part of the problem.

I’ve addressed the rumor from a book that you offered as fact, and I can’t do any more than that. If there is someone lying here, it’s you. I don’t like labelling people like that, though, so I just assume you don’t understand certain things. The agenda of certain authors. The profit motives of publishers. Words. Sanger, as an acknowledged proponent of eugenics, likely would have supported the termination of life of people she found deplorable or irredeemable. That activity would be perceived by Sanger and those like her as a resume booster. I don’t make the rules Tibs.

It’s awesome that imprisoned Americans have been released…however, Biden has been in office for nearly 4 years. If his perspective is that Trump could have secured their release while he was in office, it’s certainly fair to wonder what took him so long to partner with Putin on this release?

Still, those are the people that invested time, heart and health and were integral in building the country. And let’s be fair, in your beloved stackable pod city concept, we’re probably just a generation away from finding cancer-causing materials, black mold, and who knows what else resulting from cost-cutting, bid rigging, or unscrupulous builders/public officials.

I wouldn’t know if there was evidence or not. I know there is some controversy from her past, beyond that, no idea. The original point about the passport proving anything is lazy.

I don't know much about the players, who said what or who's making spurious allegations. I will say, however, that the intrepid journalist's evidence is simply speculation. Governments do all sorts of things, for all different reasons, can be corrupt, can be incompetent and routinely half the population is unhappy with them.

Ah, ok. I tried to synch it with The Wall and The Wizard of Oz kept popping up on my You Tube channel. Thanks for the inside dope.

What’s the dealio with the random capital letters, Frenx? Ive seen that a couple times here.

I interact with people on subjects I find interesting, unusual or in this case, odd. The standard about sticking to the subject was yours, not mine. I can’t say why you deviated from that, but it could be you were too focused on developing your “own the lib” theory. Nice talking to you, though.

Well, that’s strange. The subject of the thread is the attempted assassination of DJT. Did you think that happened in Greenland? Maybe Ritalin, to improve focus.

So…you don’t remember Tibsy comments? That’s strange.

Off the top of my head, I criticized his response to 1/6, his decision to hold a rally on 1/6, his comments on POWs, his decision to expose his throat to his political enemies by hiding onto classified document, while acknowledging that virtually every player on that level has likely held onto classified documents and would be on FBI sweep away from the same issue. I’ve criticized his decision to protest the 2020 election in the manner he chose to do so. I’ve criticized his often chaotic approach to running the WH. I’ve criticized his approach to wooing independents. I criticized his declaration that Team Obama had wire-tapped Trump Towers, and was quite surprised later on to learn the extent to which the Obama admin/DNC actually surveilled his campaign. I won’t criticize allegations made by a third or fourth party in a book, but will criticize you for misrepresenting what you’re sending over. I’ll also point out that your hero, Margaret Sanger, was most likely actually guilty of ending the lives of disabled people, and that your comments in support of her are troubling. No, but do you remember when Tibs declared his support for Margaret Sanger and her approach to eugenics? That was a mad long time ago, huh?

We’ve been over it multiple times—your argument was she was simply partnering with other like-minded people in pursuit of eliminating undesirables, as if that made it better. That’s extreme, and by extension, you’re extreme. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Finally, I’ve shamed you into seeing the light. Sadly, I’m not sure you believe what you’re saying here, but I hope you do. No, someone said someone said Trump said something. We get a lot of that. We do know, however, what Margaret Sanger thought about people dying, and what you think about her. Again…🤷🏼‍♂️

Couldn’t access this link in my last reply. Your question is “did I see the the interview about Trump”? Are you suggesting there’s an interview with Trump embedded in the link you shared? The article you linked was a story about a book. Oh, and all things considered, your position on Sanger is pretty extreme imo.

I keep thinking you’ll stop, consider how you’re twisting yourself into a pretzel to support a person who supported eugenics, but it’s pretty clear where you stand. It’s crazy, but whatever. Yes, I acknowledged the differences between then and now a couple times. The thing is, you weren’t born a hundred years ago and yet have supported Sangers pursuit of Eugenics a few times. Again, it’s crazy to me, but you have to be you, I guess.

Billions of people have watched loved ones waste away from all sorts of ailments and not run toward the darkness of eugenics and the notion that one race was inferior to another. Your most recent argument seems to be that she majored in Birth Control and only minored in Eugenics, and thus you defend her actions across the board. That’s extreme even for you. Most people live complicated lives, and as Frankish suggests above, applying the standards of today to those who lives a hundred years ago is silly. However, the part of her life that is roundly criticized as backwards, racist, intolerant and heartless is not in dispute. Tibsy on occasion represents the extreme, and people in that mode often have odd takes that are hard to rationalize.

I suppose it has to be considered, as does the fact that the statute of limitations was temporarily reinvented, the lower standard of proof required in a civil trial, and the plaintiffs difficulty in remembering key details of whatever interaction may have occurred. Add to that the venue in which the civil trial was held, the recognition that some venues will tend to be more liberal than others, that value of injury varies widely from place to place, and that the standards that exist in NY are different than standards in other states. We should also consider this the relative faith in the justice system generally, and why reasonable people can hold different perspectives on fairness and civil verdict outcomes. This poll suggests a whooping 60%+ of respondents don’t have faith in the system. https://willowresearch.com/american-confidence-courts/ It’s the best we have to offer for now, but imperfect to be sure.

You’re crafting a narrative to fit your works view. It’s been a hundred years, Tibs, and extreme views of the time have thankfully been replaced with more moderate views. Sanger was a proponent of cleansing the human race of undesirable/irredeemables. That some of the policies she promoted made sense in some shape or form doesn’t change that. 4th is like that old lady hanging off the front of the boat in Titanic—his heart is a deep ocean of contradiction.