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I spent the last couple days punching down at a dopey poster who made something up, but backed down like a dime store Karen when I asked him to document his claims. I'm hopeful we can avoid all that silliness here and will clarify what I was saying previously: It would go like this: The democrat party and Joe Biden lied to you about his cognitive state, and the media was complicit in the cover up; Now, the democrat party and Joe Biden withheld information on his bout with prostate cancer, and very well may have hidden that from voters when Joe was running last year. The advantage would be for the benefit of the GOP, continuing to hammer on the point that the dems are perpetually dishonest to their voting bloc and make them look easily played and quite foolish. That advantage might be significant or insignificant at the mid-terms, and significant or insignificant at the next presidential election. In the end, it's the nature of politics. We agree on that, yes? That was my point. That is all.

Well, if you read what I wrote, you would realize that it doesn't matter what I believe, it's the nature of politics. For example, Trump and his decision not to produce his tax returns. Obviously, his tax returns are his personal business and he was under no legal obligation to produce his returns. Precedent is fine, but he chose a different path in the run against Clinton. Turns out it wasn't a deal breaker in spite of precedent and liberal hand-wringing.

But pretending a fantasy is reality isn’t the answer here, and it never is. This is the world of politics, where every advantage is exploited, and the people who play in that space move in and out of hypocritical behavior without a thought about it. Biden the person has every right to maintaining his secrecy, Biden the former prez and face of the modern Dem party does not. The reason it’s a major issue is because it will be made a major issue. Individually, no one cares your opinion or mine for that matter. However, as a political cudgel it holds great promise to sway voters whose minds are not made up next time around. An effective political campaign uses the tools in the tool belt and lays out the danger of trusting the party with an increasingly long laundry list of hiding/manipulating/defrauding/weaponizing the system. Add to that the narrative of waste, fraud and abuse that goes against the best interests of taxpayers, and the portrayal of dems partnering with gang members and it’s a winning formula. In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether Biden knew or didn’t, the goal is to flush out the truth if possible, but hammer the credibility and link it to the Hur tapes. The Dems will have their own version, of course, so it really boils down to sentiment at the time the race plays out.

Maybe, but I doubt it.

You tried that angle already and it ended awkwardly for you—you know, you glitched up, abandoned the subject you thought you thought through and ended up with you thinking about salad tossing. But, we did agree on the enjoyment of your day. Let’s move on.

Trump wins again, but good luck with the unicorn thing.

"...throwing word salad..."? Again, gibberish. Enjoy your day though.

Tax information is private, except when it isn’t. The journalists job would not be to leak medical records (though they would if it suited the cause), but reporting on Biden’s cognitive abilities, efforts to mislead the public etc would be in their job description. As for Trump being beaten by a decent candidate, in retrospect I don’t think so. Dems pushed too far in weaponization and hypocrisy, and had a fundamental misunderstanding of voting trends.

Had you conducted yourself with integrity in your first post, you would have been prepared to respond intelligently in your second post, and would not have to attempt to position yourself as honest in the third.

What’s predictable is that you launch an unfounded accusation, and when asked for clarification, you respond with gibberish like this. It’s like someone directs you to say something silly, then ditches you when a response comes, leaving you completely unprepared to form a coherent response.

I certainly believe Epstein could have been murdered, but likely killed himself. Still…with sleepy prison guards, broken cameras and one of most famous criminals in the world, it really seems very logical to be suspicious of the narrative offered by the govt.

When did I call rushing “…straight into a barricaded building…” and dying for it “patriotism”?

Agreed—saw him several times, including on Broadway a few years back, and there was nothing in that regard. I saw a clip from a show recently and it seemed a diff story, though to what degree I cannot say. I’ve never had a bad time at a show, and sledgehammer is a good description.

IMO, it comes down to this: Whatever Biden and his team did, they did. Not the first nor last time it will happen. The media side is a bit more complicated: -They have sources or they don’t have sources. Part of the leap of faith when they quote sources deep within is that they are accurate. -The media missed a major story about a president in crisis. It was open and obvious, it was clear to thinking people, and it started long before the debate. Given that, there are two ways to look at it: 1. The media is incompetent and thus everything they put out should be questioned regardless of politics; 2. The media was complicit in the illusion of sharp as a tack Biden. Given the post-mortem handwringing, I’d say complicit is most likely, but can see why others might think it was a competence issue.

Saw him last year, and was hopeful I wouldn't have to listen to him rattle on about his politics. I am 100% comfortable with him having his views (though I wonder what changed from 1985ish when he declared in concert that "Blind faith in your leaders can get you killed" when he could have simply said "Always vote democrat"), I just don't feel like for a few hundred a ticket I need to be a captive to his politics. It was a great show, he played music, told a few stories and I didn't have to make a beer run if he started talking about politics. I made enough as it was. There are literally hundreds of ways for him to scratch his 'do what i do' itch, but concert venues shouldn't be on that list imo.

Ouch. This is exactly what I would say if I was pretending to be you. “Foxx”??? Come on, how superficial! Sounds like an awful lot of work when it’s just as easy to say we’re not we. I am indeed a member of billsfan.com, but don’t visit much. I really enjoy interacting with those folks—I don’t know Foxx personally but appreciate the work he puts in and the site. I’m a bit of a creature of habit and change is hard for me. This may be the impetus to get me rolling again. See: Forever, Ferguson Joe

https://thenationaldesk.com/news/americas-news-now/nearly-40-dems-call-on-biden-to-lower-sky-high-grocery-costs-use-every-possible-tool-democratic-party-inflation-food-prices-economy-elizabeth-warren-james-mcgovern-bernie-sanders

People push buttons, Mup, I may on occasion do it myself. 😇.

I can’t speak to national trends, but I don’t know one Trump supporter that regrets their decision, or would revisit a vote for Biden or Harris.

Oh great, now we have to deal with whether or not it’s aluminum or al-you-min-um. No thanks.

The democrat party shoulders the entire blame here. Absent an historically horrific debate, his supporters would have dutifully lined up behind him and cast a vote for him the first time. In fact, if he stayed in the race, the likely outcome was the same. Maybe the solution is to just accept that we’re often deceived, and not just feign outrage when our preferred candidate loses.

In the spirit of personhood and compromise, I think you’re correct here. @Wacka I follow your posts, it’s great to hear things are progressing and you are receiving excellent care. In the spirit of pretty much any non-creeper on the planet, what an odd thing to say.

This thread cracks me up because it proves one thing—all the complaints or outrage about “whataboutism” go out the door when the high-minded folks need a whataboutism. Comey knows the system, knows how to work the system, and knows what to say and what not to say. A far, far more insidious comment involved Chuck Schumer and “six ways from Sunday”.

I think the protocol would be to “get real” much, much sooner than this. One would hope the major media outlets would investigate, using their vaunted inside sources for the greater good, and not shoulder shrug now that they were duped….or that it was someone else’s fault. But, since we cannot trust political operatives to do the right thing, and the media is not trustworthy, we do what we can do—support the agenda that most closely aligns with your values.

With respect to the title of your post, I’m not sure his decline was worse than it seemed. He was making up words, struggling to stay on point and had trouble recalling details of his son’s death. This interview seems to follow the trajectory of what we saw the entire time.