Max Fischer

I haven't see any report that suggests Bennett was told to get on the ground, he ran from the police, matched the description of an active shooter, etc. All those things MAY have happened but we'll see. There is no doubt police are put in very stressful situations but then again, there are more than a handful of incidents to suggest that Bennett could have a good case that he was unfairly targeted.

I'm on board the McBeane train and believe they have a plan to win; but it won't be this year. - I like Tyrod but he'll only get the team so far. - I like Z Jones and J Mathews, but they are very thin at WR - Rookie CB and thin at DB - OL has yet to prove they can pass block consistently and only have Groy as backup. - Thin at LB If they stay completely healthy and play well, then maybe 8-8 but 5-11 seems more realistic. My hope is they play well and grow over the course of the season.

Agree 100%

With no more evidence than Bennett's letter, you seem to be pretty certain that officers' actions were justified. I see no evidence support or discredit your assumptions. Personally, I'll wait and see; but it sure sounds like it could have been a very unpleasant experience for anyone.

A strong case has been made that each of these moves helps propel a larger/longer plan to win in the future. SG - Not worth the money and may have been replaced by a player who is cheaper and fits the defense. RW - A "fine" player but not worth the money; again, possibly replaced by player who is cheaper and fits the offense. Ragland - Sunk cost. Pre-injury he may have been worth holding but seems clear that he's not the player when drafted, no matter the cost at the time. Mathews - You may be write, but no different than the questions that surround Watkins and I believe they would not have signed him either way. Darby - He really is not all that good and did not fit new defense at all. If Gaines is healthy, he would be a very good replacement. That's a plan. We'll see if it works but there is logic behind each move. If they work out, Bills are on their way to a rebuild. On the other hand, the reverse decision on each sounds much more risky.

Why do so many fans rail against the moves by distorting basic facts? Gilmore - We've seen the good SG and the terrible; but certainly you can make a logical argument he was not worth the contract he signed. (Would you have signed him? I know I wouldn't at that price)) At the very least, SG might not fit in the current defense and we have yet to see TW play a single regular season down. A strong case could be made for "Let's see how it goes," but TW is hardly "very little." Watkins - Same for Watkins, this board and other places has debated ad nauseam about the deal, but Jordan Mathews is no doubt as productive, if not more productive than SW. Perhaps not as dynamic, but over his career, no doubt a much better asset. At worse, this one is a wash. Woods - Oh, please. A good, average player. Did you really want to sign him for what he got? We'll see, but I feel pretty confident that Zay Jones will more than fill Woods shoes. Ragland- Really? The guy may not see the field this year. Darby - Again we'll see, but Darby does not fit this defense and time will tell if his replacement is a bit more than you think. J. Williams - He's an average RB. Tolbert et al have already demonstrated they are as good. JW may not even play this year.

Rosen seems like a bit of a head case.

Perhaps, but then I don't get all the handwringing over the "dime for two dozen" back like JW.

Yet . . . it wasn't obvious to many people, including the professional coaching staff and talent evaluators. Could it be that JW does not, infact, have "the potential to be a better runner than the other three." Appears to be the case.

Not sure I understand this point, but I would have no problem drafting a RB with great potential. To me (and apparently the coaching staff) JW was not back-up material, let alone a potential starter post-McCoy.

Yes, would also be crazy drop-off if JW was #2 and perhaps worse than current back-ups. Not every team has a great player to back up a superstar.

Message boards are littered with many a poster who perished while repeatedly charging up the hill crying about some player we never heard about again.

Those are a few excellent reasons, in addition to: "Not good enough," "Not in our long-term plan," "We got a better return on investment," etc; all of which can be reasonably argued.

I don't recall anyone stating he was crowed #2. If anything, folks (i.e. fans) simply handed him the job and then were shocked that it didn't happen. Doubtful McD/Beane every made that assumption.

Great, how are the Bills gonna tank if they trade for decent players? Will miss Darby getting toasted at least twice a game.

It's not the prediction but the "reasoning."

This thread is embarrassing. Get a grip folks.

Not sure why you can't accept that it's possible that jwill might not be good enough to keep. Simple as that. Maybe jwill just isn't that good? That sounds like a logical explanation.

+1

That's amazing, you know all that without the Bills taking a single regular season snap? Do you have stock tips and Lotto numbers, too? To think, I was going to give them two tears to make progress. Glad I didn't waste all that time.

You are assuming VD will be on the roster, will play and will suck. I wish the Bills had other options but we'll see. One player doesn't make a roster.

I also heard the US never landed on the moon.

How would you possibly know that? I have never said a word about VD. You and I know nothing about what goes into the team's decision making. I readily admit that, while you fantasize that you are on the team.

This is a lame way to defend your flame war against the team's decisions. You are the one who kept bringing up Ducasse as if he's the only player that matters. Has he played a single down as a Bill? No. Do you know if VD will start? No. Do you know if he will be bad? No. Do you know more than the management? Certainly not.

But the coaches who watched him every single day did not. What if he was a bad teammate, missed assignments, was not coachable and/or had leveled out as a player, would you still be OK with jwill?