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I sat through both of those. Combine them and it’s going to be a joke. From a football perspective, this is a horrid forecast.

And yet it still will be better on Monday than on Sunday. So what’s your solution? Bring 70+k people to OP, force the town/county/state to plow to get them out of there (which it did NOT do during the most recent major snow events to force people to stay off of the roads to allow for cleaning), and then deal with those people and others who decide to travel on roads that are marginally plowed? And, frankly, the reason so many people (47, IIRC) died in the last storm like this one is that many of them were out on roads and were stuck in cars during the teeth of the blizzard, which is exactly why, from a public safety perspective, this game should not be played here on Sunday. So it’s either roll the dice on Sunday, play it on Sunday (in Cleveland, apparently), or try it here or in Cleveland/Detroit on Monday. This. It’s nuts. Unless you’ve been in it, you don’t understand.

Yeah. No kidding. I think the crew actually had to shovel the pellets after halftime.

Agreed on the importance. And it’s not a football game, it’s a PLAYOFF game. One must skip at leas the first four of the events you mentioned for such an affair.

That’s the point. I’d run it at 4p on Sunday and use it as lead in to MNF. ESPN may complain, but whatever. Bump the start of that game back a bit to let ESPN have a more captive audience for the pre-game programming. It’s a common-sense, easy solution. Only downside is that the schedule for the following weekend can’t be set until the conclusion of any early Monday game that might be played. (Late game would be a 4/5 game in NFC, IIRC, meaning that the destination of the winner is dictated by the results in other games.) From what I understand Hochul just declared a state of emergency. State and local officials might be able to force the issue here and get it pushed back a bit.

Agreed. All day long. And I get that someone is going to say that this is a football game, not a wedding or a party or whatever. I agree with that point. Football is meant to be played in the elements. But football games with 70k+ attendees are not meant to HOSTED in such elements. I’m going to bang on the Monday late afternoon drum on this one all day long.

Exactly. Made the point upthread. We play Monday, next game for winner is Sunday night. (Makes sense b/c it’s likely to be Bills Chiefs, which almost certainly would be on Sunday night, anyways, or Steelers Ravens, which is an appropriate Sunday night game.) That can be dealt with. It’s not the best use of public resources, but they can get 90/190/219/20A open. Lots can be cleared. Private lots are on their own, but it’s feasible. The big issue is getting people in and out of the Stadium in an ongoing blizzard, which it appears we will have on Sunday. No amount of equipment is going to resolve that issue.

Probably. That’s how lake snow works.

Of course not. But we could plow. And drive. And see. As I understand your point (it’s not going to be markedly better on Monday), I reject it. I’ve lived through it. I won’t be good in Monday if the snow is as forecasted, but it will be light years better than what the current forecast indicates will be a blizzard on Sunday. Not like this weather. Sorry, but you’re wrong. The Bills have never hosted a football game in the type of weather that is forecasted for Sunday,

And they are in a place to suggest it to the NFL.

Monday. That’s the point. If you’ve never lived through a storm like this you have no idea how hard it’s going to be to play an effective game. Think a combo of Indy snow game and NE wind game. It’s going to be a joke. And the public safety concern is real. Unlike most people here I’ve sat through the frigid games against the Jets, the Raiders, NE playoff game, 07 Giants rain (worst weather ever), Indy snow. You name it, I’ve been there. The weather doesn’t bother me in the least from a personal perspective. Frankly, I’d be thrilled about the forecast if we were 13-2 and had home field in the bag. This is a bad forecast that poses a real threat to our football team and, if we have 70k people in town over the weekend, those visitors.

Exactly. Who fished them out of the snow? How much gridlock did that cause? I’ve lived through every cataclysmic storm since the Blizzard of 77. It’s not about being weak as a society. It’s about the morons who are going to go out there totally unprepared for winter weather. Those morons affect everyone else. The smart play is to ride it out and play the game on Monday for so many football and public safety reasons.

I’ll survive, too. OP’er. I can handle it. But can all of the knuckleheads who go handle it? Doubtful. And who is going to fish them out of the snow? Beyond that, does any Bills fan really want this game played in blizzard? I sure don’t. So use public safety as the excuse to move it to Monday, we’ll smoke the Steelers in reasonable weather, and be at the Stadium again next Sunday.

You can make it. It’s going to take forever and a day. Parking is going to be a huge issue, too. And good luck getting out of there.

I don’t care about sitting in the stadium. I’ll be there, and I don’t mind the snow or the cold, and I’ll have a great time no matter the weather. I’m just telling everyone - the idea of trying to park all of these people, and then get them out of there, in a blizzard is insane. Particularly after 47 people died in a similar storm in 2022. Apparently you didn’t live through the 2022 storm.

Do you live in the Southtowns? I do. Have my whole life. Decades-long STH. This is not a good idea, both for football reasons and (much more importantly) public safety reasons. It is profoundly stupid to invite 70k+ people to OP with that forecast.

There’s the idea. Folks at OBD read this page. The forecast is nuts and, if those winds and that snow come to pass, it’s a public safety issue. So there’s the plan. CBS gets a holiday game on Monday, we get some reasonable weather, nobody’s at risk of dying in a snowbank, and there we go.

I was a the wind game (longtime STH). We didn’t throw the ball enough. End of story. The short/short intermediate stuff was there, particularly on play action. And there were chances for big plays. Diggs dropped a beautiful ball (it would have been a tough catch) on the tunnel end/visitors side that would have given us the win. The problem for Sunday is the combination of the wind and the snow. Lifelong Southtowner, longtime STH, and I’m telling everyone that this is not a good forecast. I’m on the “move the game to Monday” team for public safety reasons.

I think we’re saying the same thing. Daboll didn’t like these guys, and doesn’t like Wink, and doesn’t want to give Wink his way with respect to getting away from the Giants. So rather than fire Wink and have him run Phlily’s defense next year, he’s trying to bait Wink into quitting.

Daboll’s pretty smart and messed with him by firing his guys. They’re trying to get wink to quit or to fire him for cause.

Didn’t Babich have the safeties and do a nice job there? Good work at two levels. Not to take away from Washington, but that’s a nice job in two groups of my memory is sound.

I generally agree with this. The only thing I’d qualify the “promote from within” point with is the idea that perhaps there’s a position coach who had a phenomenal year and convinced McD that he’s ready for a promotion. I’m not there, and I have no inside info, but maybe Bobby Babich fits the profile. Terrell Bernard was light years better than I ever could have imagined.

Yup. And he hates losing to us. As evinced by the fact that he wasn’t out there for kneel downs (at least not that I saw).

If you’re talking about the wind game, the lesson that I took from that is to throw the ball responsibly and don’t be so scared of the wind.

I don’t know about two CB1s, but you’re in to something with Benford. He’s a stud.