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It's tough for you to contend that you hold the intellectual high ground when you communicate with images from a Disney move.

Do points made by "prog/libs" bother you?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-reverses-course-says-too-soon-georgia-reopen-n1190061 What's the out here? Trump wasn't familiar with his own administration's guidelines?

Based on some of your comments here, I don't care to know you. I enjoy disagreement. I like the give and take. It makes us all better and more thoughtful. It's healthy for our society and for our country. That's how America is supposed to work. I'll go back and forth with Chef Jim all day. I might disagree with him, but he's generally pretty thoughtful and respectful. And I respect that. (SoCalDeek probably falls in the same category; we see the world differently, but that's perfectly fine. I enjoy the reasoned back and forth.) I don't respect your approach here. It's wrong. You know it and I know it.

If I called COVID the "Congo Cough" or the "Box Street Bug," everybody in Buffalo would know what I'm saying. The same principles apply to the Confederate flag. It's a nice story that it stands for states rights, and maybe in 1861 it did. But it doesn't today. And anyone who flies one or sees one knows it. Applying that logic here, while "Chinese" may not be a race, you're using the term in phrase in a way to communicate racism. Semantical gymnastics don't hide that.

I agree that he was clueless. And that's kind of the point. Based on all of the available information, including a memo by Peter Navarro, he shouldn't have been so ill-informed. There's a difference between not having complete information (probably where all of us are still today) and ignoring the sufficient information available for our review (one of Trump's missteps here). https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/07/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-response-is-increasingly-damning/

Fake news.

I don't acknowledge that the WHO lied for the Chinese. I do, however, note that the prez made the statement in question four to five weeks after the WHO noted evidence of human-to-human transmission. https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/22-01-2020-field-visit-wuhan-china-jan-2020 https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/ Points like the one you just tried to make are why you're on the "fake news" and "hoax" lists.

"We're at 15 cases, and soon we're going to be at zero!" This must be fake data, or fake science: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

Look harder.

Asked and answered. By me. Search for my "February 1" comment in direct response to you earlier in this thread.

You just nailed it. I struggle to figure out what he's accomplished. Judges, I guess, and dividing the country, for sure. Renegotiating NAFTA, I suppose. And I guess that he had a first phase trade deal with China. But on balance, a whole lot of broken promises and nasty rhetoric. That's the sum of the Trump presidency. Re: the bolded. Thank you. I'm glad somebody else realizes it. All we have on the economic side of things is 3.5 years of dead money in an S&P index and a boatload of new debt in exchange for our trouble. The whole thing is a house of cards, which really shouldn't have surprised anyone given this guy's business record.

That's sort of the point. Nobody knew the subject because the president didn't allow the question. It very well could have been (and, given the context, probably was) a question about oil production and the president's negotiations with foreign producers to cut supply to protect the American energy industry. So before cutting off the question, as the president did, let's at least determine what the subject of the question is. They probably won't treat the next president the same way, you're right. And that's because the next president probably will be more truthful and candid than the current president, meaning that there won't be nearly the antagonism between the press and the next administration, Democrat or Republican.

Another fine example of a presidential dodge. The question was something along the lines of, "Can I check in on oil today?" Instead of allowing a substantive question to reach the floor, or answering the "pregnant" question (yes or no would have been appropriate), the prez responded with a question about the price of oil per bbl. That type of response invites more direct and forceful questioning. If you want to blame the media for doing its job, fine. That's where the prez wants you to go.

Perhaps, and this is just a thought, if Trump was more truthful and answered questions directly then the briefings wouldn't be so combative. By way of example, Trump said something to the effect that he knew that coronavirus wouldn't return as strongly in the fall. Twice he was asked for the basis for that statement. Twice he dodged and said something non-responsive.

I thought you watched the press conferences. Maybe you should watch a little more carefully.

If data eventually supports the theory, then we may have finally found an instance in which smoking saves lives. Amazing. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8246939/French-researchers-plan-nicotine-patches-coronavirus-patients-frontline-workers.html "You weren't called!"

So who, in your view, isn't stupid?

Fake news. The human and economic costs of COVID are far worse than the presence of new people on an Internet message board who challenge your misguided political positions. I think you forgot that the Emoluments clause is "phony." Trump said so himself. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/21/donald-trump-mocks-constitution-emoluments-clause-phony/4055162002/

More name-calling like that and you'll get yourself on a list sooner than later. I had the same thought. It's OK to be worried about a link in the supply chain, but still confident in the chain in its entirety. There is sound logic to that point. I'll qualify my support for that post. Good for Australia. Bad for Sabres fans. I've been punished enough.

Fake news. The only thing that was validated here was that you belong on the Washed up Psycho and snowflake lists, among others. Hoax. He believed he had the authority. He was just wrong about that. Among other things. Fake news. I have never made a three page argument in this setting.

not watching now. Birx to explain, or Birx to figure it out?

How he knows that remains a mystery. Me too. But he’s talking out of his posterior again. Just like he was on the miracle drug thing.

No argument there. But it is kind of like the guy who called the thing a hoax having “absolute authority” to run the show. Two bad ideas.

Still waiting for his answer on how he knows the virus will not come back. He was asked the question twice. He could have summed it up in two appropriate words: fake science.