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Charged with what? You’re implying that something criminal occurred. Maybe we should tap or even slam on the brakes on that. I haven’t seen anything to indicate that Brandon’s conduct went beyond immorality and deceit.

I’ll bite. What are your observations of men in the office based on your decades of “co-ed office experience”?

I second that.

Outstanding stuff.

personally I’ve found that the harder I work the more privileged I become.

Very well said. I feel horribly for his family. And I’m proud that a team in which I’m a stakeholder won’t tolerate this kind of garbage. Well done by the Pegulas.

Lets not lose sight of the fact that Brandon was fired for deceit. And this isn’t a “me too” issue (not that I condone a superior having an intimate relationship with a subordinate.). The workplace affair compromises the boss, and it’s simply bad for business. That, plus the deceit in lying to the owner ..... he would have been fired from any business I’ve been associated with. Huh?

Who was crying? And I don’t understand equating the melancholy over the lack of civil discourse EVERYWHERE in modern society with Aztec culture.

I have no idea what this means.

It’s everywhere — not just here — these days.

It is if you fail to disclose a personal relationship with a subordinate and then lie to the boss about it.

Didn’t thank Russ, huh? That should remove any doubt that he was shown the door. Bad move to exploit female employees and then lie to the boss about it.

If I was his agent I'd have him on a diet. Specifically the Nick Hardwick diet. What better way to keep your bonus money and to punch your ticket out of dodge than to put yourself in a position where you don't have the body mass to do your job. It's a win-win for Incognito. No obligation to repay the bonus, and little likelihood that he's here this year.

Im not sold on a bunch of these guys. I love Rosen, think Darnold could be really good, and could live with Lamar Jackson. Not sure about mayfield. Could boom or bust. Want no part of rudolph - can’t get past the Texas game on him. Think Allen is EJ Manuel w a better arm and a bit more mystery about him.

This. Yes. All day long. Make the trade.

I thought the same thing. This incident is so bizarre that I actually hope it's a chemically-induced aberration as opposed to mental illness. For the kid's own sake. Football is at best a secondary consideration in this situation.

Seriously. No comparison. Chris Hinton was a lot more valuable then than he would be now.

It’s a fair point for sure. Personally I’d rather have the bird in the hand with the QB and buy the equivalent of a first round talent in FA with our cap space next year. My counter to your point (which, again, I respect) is that I’d rather have a a top end skill talent than a middle of the first round OL, LB, etc. This board debated the Sammy trade to death, but it’s inarguable that we acquired a $16/mil/year player for a CB and a C that I can’t even name. It was a big price to pay, but no nobody would flip Watkins for those two players.

I wonder if next year’s first might be the price. That would be my counter if I was the Giants. Personally I would give up next year’s one and try to dilute the back end of our offer (eg, include the lower picks in the second and third rounds). But even if it takes next years one without that dilution I would make the trade today. We have the cap space to buy players next year in lieu of that pick, but we likely won’t have the capital to get a QB then. I assume this was Beanes design, and it was brilliant.

Exactly right. They showed their hand and guaranteed themselves nothing more than the third best QB in the draft. They may may also have raised the price of the second pick of the draft. Maybe it costs us 12 + 22 + a two and a three this year + a 1 next year to get to 2. So be it if that is the case.

We aren't there yet. The Jets trade is not a great thing, but it's not the end of the world. It definitely raises the price for us to get to #2. It may also lock the Jets into the third best QB in the draft if they don't have the assets to move up again. The trade also puts the Giants in position to expedite their rebuild if they (a) believe in Eli; and (b) can live without Barkley. It also would help the Giants if (c) they are lucky enough that Cleveland loves Barkley. Assuming that those three things are true, Barkley is the key to the draft. Cleveland could take him at 1 and move into the Giants pick at 2 to take its QB. Or Cleveland could lock in its QB at 1 and move up for Barkley at 2. Based on the price to go from 3 to 6, it will be expensive for Cleveland to move up even two spots. Assuming Cleveland moves up into two (or that the Jets don't do it themselves), the Giants could move again from 3 or 4 - maybe dealing with us for 12, 21, and additional high picks (next year's 1, maybe a pair of twos, etc.). No matter, the Giants are the big winner today - they have the chance to add a lot of young talent to the roster in a very short period of time. And although the price went up today, we're still in the game for a QB at the top of the draft, and we have the benefit of the Jets showing their hand early and seemingly locking themselves into a spot (if we pay a king's ransom to the Giants) where they may not be able to jump us for our guy.

Im sorry but I think it's fair to question why McCarron never passed Dalton. If memory serves, Dalton was a 2d round pick, and his contract does not befit a franchise passer. Only about 20% of his money was guaranteed, and there were/are easy outs after years 2 and 4. I can't believe a frugal organization like Cincinnati wouldn't have preferred mccarron to dalton at about half of daltons cap hit if it thought the two are close in ability.

Easy come, easy go.

May be the case. The Tyrod third might be more attractive to philly today than it was yesterday.

Multi year deal and draft a guy. Doesn’t have to be Allen. If the rook looks good we can try to flip Bradford in camp or at the deadline if even next year for futures. Kind of like Philly did a few years ago ... with Bradford.