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One of the best posts in the history of this forum. Spot on.

But you're fine with cutting their SNAP and Medicaid benefits.

Winner winner chicken dinner. They fear-mongered during the campaign and created a problem that largely didn't exist. Why is that, an inquiring MAGA mind may ask? Because, under federal law, a wide variety of criminal convictions already lead to deportation. And those laws have been well-enforced. So this idea that there's 20 million criminal aliens running around is just as dumb as the "eating the dogs and cats" BS during the debates. It just isn't true. So, to hit the quota, ICE is so aggressive that it is rounding up any alien (a policy that I suspect a majority of Americans don't like given the importance of this labor to our economy) and is catching some US citizens in the net.

This is where I'm at. There might be a temporary pause, be it of days, months, or even a few years. But now Iran looks at the world and sees a regional Air Force that can dominate its skies and that actually has dominated its skies in a matter of hours. They also look at everyone leaving North Korea alone. And the Ukrainians wishing they hadn't given up their nukes. If the regime survives this episode, the best path to long-term security is a nuke. Peace through strength, as "they" say.

I strongly disagree. Israel started a preemptive war with the intention of destroying Iranian nuclear capability. If you think the Iranians, to the extent the regime survives this, won't do anything they can to get a nuke after this episode, then I have a bridge to sell you. Obviously any sort of nuclear accord that involves the survival of Fordow isn't acceptable to the Israelis. Netanyahu has been saying for years that Iran is weeks away from a nuke. So for him to justify the expense and domestic loss incurred as a result of this, Fordow--the epicenter of the Iranian nuke program--has to go. They can't take anything less. That's a corner. They can't finish this without kinetic US help. They don't have kinetic US help. The way out of the corner is kinetic US help.

Israel painted itself into a corner. This has to end with, at the very least, Fordow destroyed. The Israelis can't do it from the air alone. So, it's either boots on the ground (which probably will require US "transportation" services at the very least) or the US bunker buster. So now Israel really needs US help to get this thing to a somewhat reasonable conclusion. Trump bought some time for negotiations but, realistically, it's going to be hard for Iran to agree to anything with Israeli jets over Tehran, and Netanyahu is going to struggle to agree to anything that doesn't involve the Iranian nuclear program physically destroyed.

Because social distancing was going away and idiot Trumpers wouldn’t take the vac and instead experimented with garbage remedies like HCQ.

What would Judge Judy say about this? Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining? After this episode, and after watching North Korea not get bombed, if you think this Iranian regime won't do anything to get a nuke then I have a bridge to sell you.

I'll add that I think you missed a point about Trump. He's a fraud and a phony who has enriched himself on the backs of the people who support him without actually doing anything to help them. I really wonder how many people simply dislike him less than they disliked some lady with pearls who hasn't worked a 9 to 5 in decades. (Not that Trump has, either.) Maybe I'm giving the electorate too much credit and a huge chunk of it really is drooling morons poisoned by the Internet. But that's really where I'm at. Pete B.'s appearance on that pod recently hit all the high points. Hopefully more Democrats start talking like that.

Well f'ing said. I completely agree with you. We have to stop talking about which weirdo rocks a piss in which bathroom and focus on making people's lives better. Better wages, better working conditions, better health, better health insurance, fairer taxation (tax the rich), no stupid tariffs, treat everyone with decency, give everyone a fair short, and move on. Only once those things are done can we have conversations about stupid fringe issues like the five trannies who play women's sports and piss off some swimmer who didn't win a medal nobody cares about anyways and parlayed that into a following on Fox News. Populism with decency is what the Democratic Party used to be, and it's time to get back to that.

I'll add to this. I see Trump as a reaction to the failings of both major parties. I know a lot of Trump-supporting vets (which seems absurd to me in view of suckers and losers, but whatever) who I strongly suspect are with him based on the failings of George W. Bush. They went to war in Iraq based on a lie, left blood, sweat, tears, limbs, and friends there, and it was all a waste. So they seized on both Bernie and Trump. Now they're with Trump. Whether they stick with the Republican Party remains to be seen. (I suspect they'd flip back to a Bernie candidate who looks like them pretty easily.) But time will tell.

Sorry. Not ringing a bell. You pay more attention to this type of thing than I do. I will, however, check in with you if I have any questions about the tranny or furry communities in the future. Sort of as an "ask the expert" play. MAGA logic. And yet we made nice with the North Koreans and never bombed the USSR.

You're much more familiar with the cross-dressing community than am I. Of whom do you speak?

If only he talked about squirting Lysol on the lungs of sick people we might have been taken more seriously.

Speaking of delusion, how is stop the steal going?

Are we going to launch strikes against Iran from the same airport that George Washington used in the Revolutionary War?

Ultimately I think it ends with Israeli incursion and limited boots on ground to take care of the mountain nuke site. In the meantime they’re going to keep destroying infrastructure needed to repel such an incursion, and take the chance to turkey shoot what they can with a weakened historical nemesis.

Looks like we can add farm workers to this list now, too. This is what happens in an outrage-driven movement like MAGA. All those illegals who are criminals they carry in about? Turns out there aren’t that many. And the ones who fall in that category typically were and are expeditiously deported under long-standing law. Which is why to meet his deportation quota Trump took to things like deporting migrant labor. Which in turn screwed up the farming industry. Which in turn caused him to go TACO again. It’s weird. I tend to agree with you. They probably fade back to where they are before. But maybe they stay involved and splinter. Some may go to a Bernie candidate. Others may double down on someone like Tom Cotton. It’s hard to say,

Or it makes Trump the TACO man. Kind of like his stance on tariffs. And the border wall. And repeal and replace. So much for walk softly and carry a big stick. Now it's wear a diaper, be a fake tough guy, and don't get anything done.

Well said. If they had the means to blow up the mountain facility, it would have been destroyed already. Hence the fuel bridge and the Iranian play for time.

I do think they’re stalling. The still have the nuke facility buried in the mountain. (Which may be why we’re building the fuel bridge today.). Keep that, reload Hizbollah, build more missiles, and maybe the nuke, and then start again.

We agree. Israel’s putting the wood to them. So they want to stall, reload, and start again.

My guess is that Iran is stalling. Israel has control of the skies. Iran wants to protect what it has, rebuild air defenses, and then restart nuke work. Only now, after this episode, they’re more desperate to finish it.

Hoax. We don't hear about it enough. But congratulations on not trying to violently overthrow the government because you lost an election and then got brainwashed by Roger Stone today. Trying a little bit too hard, eh? Where were these riots yesterday? Now J6 - that was a riot. Far worse, actually. It was an insurrection. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Hoax. Even by MAGA math. This is too easy. Hoax.