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Wrong. There is no core difference between the two. Both are abhorrent. Why is it so hard to say that it all has to stop?

Do you ever highlight right wing stupidity? There’s plenty of it to go around. Including in this board. What’s your point?

It was your word upthread. Social media is a big part of life. The shoe fits on both feet. Of course nobody should cheer the murder. It's abhorrent. All of the abhorrent stuff on social media has to stop, and it runs both ways. Let's not pretend it's a one-sided issue.

Do you disagree that all of this has to stop? And, while there are instigators on both sides, in this forum it's fairly clear that there is more instigation on the right side of the aisle. So it's natural that the responses apply to those contentions.

Irrespective of the affiliation, he was a pretty socially conservative guy. Not that it really matters. You're right about the rejoicing, largely because Kirk was a more public figure. It's all wrong and it all has to stop. Again, you paint with a broad brush. And you downplay the Minnesota point. Didn't that guy target a whole bunch of Democrats? Where's the outrage about that? If we're really going to fix this, we can't have this selective anger. It's all wrong or none of it is wrong. And, to be clear, all of this BS is wrong.

Sadly, this is probably going to be one of those impossible paradoxes that we have in today's society. I'm going to guess that he's some whack job kid rebelling against a conservative dad in Utah, and the blame wheel will go round and round with the right blaming all "woke" and the left blaming the dad for screwing up the kid. I hope I'm wrong and the kid is just a jerk. (By definition, he is, but an "apolitical" jerk is what I'm getting at.) Lots of character by that dad, that's for sure. I don't know if I could do it.

As far as I know, anti-LGBTQ and anti-abortion. 2024 GOP primary voter, which I mention only because I suspect you're going to get into the Twitter trash about alleged "leftism." The point remains that what happened to Kirk was abhorrent, and what happened to those people in Minnesota is equally abhorrent. Let's not pretend that all of this nonsense is a one way street, and that we don't all have to work together to clean it up. None of this is remotely acceptable, and we all have to do our part to stop it.

I believe you said the nurse hates "someone." You're worried about the nurse projecting her views of an entirely different person to you in violation of the law and whatever moral responsibility she might have. I'm concerned that, taken to a logical extreme, your projection makes it pretty tough for anyone to trust one another. What about those Minnesota lawmakers? Not that it remotely justifies anything here. Point is, people on both sides are wrong, and it all has to stop.

What's your point? You're trying to turn a common phrase into something it's not. If I had said something like "out of the tent," then I would agree with what otherwise are your continued efforts to gaslight and to mislead. But I didn't. And your continued efforts to twist, and to contort, and to mislead are part of the problem.

New post, old shtick.

This has nothing to do with what we have been talking about and your projection of points made by relatively anonymous individuals to large groups. It's your shtick. And it's part of the problem.

You have again proved my point. Extrapolating what one or two or even some people say on Twitter to a broad group is a big part of the problem on both sides.

Wrong again. "Off the stage" doesn't come remotely close to "murder." Keep on gaslighting.

Another example of painting with a broad brush. NOBODY should celebrate this violence. It's abhorrent. But does that mean that everyone who acted so improperly is "woke" (whatever that means)? Not in the least.

No, I didn't. Keep on gaslighting and keep on being part of the problem.

Yeah, sure. Whatever. Nobody talked about murder except for you. Keep on inflaming. You're part of the problem. Who is "they?" And gaslighting hardly is a one way street. J6 was a day of love? We're for law and order, but we issue pardons to people who participated in that nonsense? Give me a break. All of it has to stop on both sides.

None. Why are you suggesting murder? What makes you think of that as opposed to quiet retirement? The nonsense you just spouted is part of the problem.

Wrong. Both sides can be in the wrong. The point is that all of this nonsense has to stop. And stopping it means stopping all of it. Including the types of BS that are quotes at the outset of this thread.

This can go to an extreme. Do I trust the elevator guy with the MAGA hat to properly install the elevator in my building? A fair question. At some point all of this suspicion and nonsense and blame game has to stop. Want some truth? Trump is an abomination. A pathological liar. People on the left feel (rightfully) like he can't be trusted. People on the right defend his blatant lies and mistruths, which causes people on the left extraordinary frustration and to question their intellectual integrity, character, and honesty. Then, people on the right have, in many instances, raised fair and legitimate points about, for example, a variety of cultural issues and security issues. I'll say that, taking the border wall out of the picture, the right has been correct about border security, and about taking a tough stance with China. But then the left lumps the right together and calls them all racist, Nazi, etc. Some of the frustration of the left--"the China virus"--is warranted. However, I understand the frustration of the right in that respect. Of course, the right is not shy about calling people commies, and hate-filled, and pedos, etc. And so we can keep going down this path of blaming each other, and having hurt feelings, and engaging in inflammatory rhetoric that both sides rightfully find frustrating or insulting. Or we can all knock it off and try to be more respectful and figure this thing out before somebody else is killed for expressing a viewpoint. Here's another hard truth that doesn't make me a commie or a pedo or whatever. Trump is not the man for the moment. People on the right want certain social changes and security improvements? Maybe find somebody with similar positions who isn't such a divisive, selfish, inept leader and you'll really start to make some progress. I don't doubt that for a second. I also don't think that Trump is capable of unifying anything or anyone. That's just the reality of it. He's a divider. Always has been, always will be. Nothing changes until the "old" crowd - Trump, the Clintons, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and Mike Johnson - all are off the stage. The sooner the better, and hopefully we can find some sense of normal.

That describes your rhetoric. As far as the insults go, look in the mirror. "Lowest form of life" seems to be something you said just this morning. You are part of the problem. If Simon's going to do something, he ought to take a look at what you write. Again, Big Blitz is part of the problem.

But we don't here. So tone it down. Precisely the sort of rhetoric that has to stop. "You people remain the absolute lowest forms of life on earth." Prone to hyperbole much? Knock it off. You're part of the problem. That's the point. Two-tiered economy. Regular unskilled labor has a problem right now.

There’s some truth to this but it’s hardly a perfect analogy.

Doesn’t rule out two tiered economy. Skilled labor will get paid. Unskilled labor, probably not so much based on recent jobs report. It’s gonna get tight for them.

I don’t wanna get into speculation, particularly when there is a victim to be mourned. But I will say that something about this strikes me as very strange and certainly very deliberate, if not professional. Thomas Crooks and Sirhan this is not. My guess is two tiered economy. Agreed.

We share the frustration with the lazy. I see it as a “thousand pound sisters” problem. I have a lot of contempt for that. No, you didn’t read it properly. He said natural born.