Luxy312

Madden/pipe dream. Never going to happen.

Noooooooo! No more rejects please. Let's start fresh.

Why make a change just for the sake of making a change? Orton had a season and failed. In two seasons, EJ has started a grand total of 15 games. I don't want another cast off reject from one (or more) other teams leading the Bills. Let EJ have his shot for an entire season. If he fails, then look to the 2016 draft. Very simple to me.

Let's follow average with even more average. Solid plan....

This is the absolute only way to fix the problem. He got 2 games already for doing the same thing, so giving him 6 going into 2015 would be totally justified. After that, make it seasons.

Trestman? Seriously???? He took one of the most loaded offenses in the NFL this year, one that I remind you should have been top-5 in the NFL, and made them a below average offense. What the hell is this OP smoking? Trestman is garbage, and Bears fans here were more than happy to see him go.

I'm just going to throw this out there, but please tell me how at every turn the fans of this team believe the answer to our problems is some cast off reject from another team? How many times have the Bills looked through trade or free agency for a guy that can take them to the big dance and failed? Are Doug Flutie and Rob Johnson not enough? Guess not, so we follow that with Drew Bledsoe and Kelly Holcomb. Vince Young and Kevin Kolb weren't even a short term solution. More recently, we're happy to say that Ryan Fitzpatrick can get us there and now this year, Kyle Orton is the answer. Now we have our faithful armchair GM's suggesting that any of Jay Cutler, Mike Glennon, or even Sam Bradford could be a solution. Hey, why not Michael Vick? He lost the starting job to standout Geno Smith (tongue in cheek). Bring in Tim Tebow because Jesus is on his side. Who wouldn't want that? Is anyone else as sick as I am with all of the idiotic armchair fans out there with stupid ideas that have little chance to work? At this point, Manuel has less than a full season of starts in the NFL for his 2 years. I don't need to see him holding a clipboard for another 6 years. Play him! If he fails, it's easy to let him go. If this team continues to believe that another journeyman QB is the answer, they're never going to get there. They've been doing this for 16 years running. Drafting a guy and then quickly demonstrating lack of confidence in him by starting someone else does not help. The only guy I can think of that's won a Superbowl with a team he didn't start with is Brad Johnson when he won it with the Bucs. Not a footprint that screams out success.

Glass statue due $13 million for next season. Given that he'll make St. Louis cut him before signing for less guaranteed, not worth it.

My personal feeling on the subject is that the front office knows that Orton is not the answer. He couldn't get them to the playoffs this year despite stellar DST play and there's no way to guarantee that the DST will be equal to the task next year. So they pull him aside and say "bow out gracefully or get fired AGAIN". The organization will thank him for his services, give him praise for taking them above 0.500 for the first time in 10 years and move on. The big question is whether the EJ Manuel experiment gets a reboot.

He's not a free agent QB. He's under guaranteed contract for $15.5 million in 2015 and $16.0 million in 2016. His actual contract goes through 2019 and is still worth more than $100 million. You're suggestion is then either that the Bills pay $15.5 and $16.0 million, or that the Bears take a $31.5 million cap hit next season. Ridiculous to say the least. To boot, he's a mental midget. Chicago fans may want him gone, but he's not going anywhere.

Average to below average completion percentage. Pass. I would rather keep Orton, who at least knows the offense.

A couple of points on Sammy Watkins. First, you can't call him a bust yet. Tell me what Lee Evans or Eric Moulds did in their rookie season. I haven't looked at the stats, but my memory tells me that they didn't do as well. Sammy is sitting at 65 receptions for 982 and 6 TD's. Respectable, but certainly not where Odell Beckham ended the year. In line with Lee Evans, but for the TD's, but that has to be discussed in the overall context of the inefficiency of the Bills offense in the red zone. They finished 31st in the NFL in red zone offense. Terrible! A little disturbing to me is that for the 7 first round draft picks in team history, 3 are from Clemson. That's somewhat of a statistical head scratcher. In terms of statistics, the NY Giants passed for almost 20% more yards than the Bills this season. If you added 20% onto Sammy's numbers (assuming an even distribution, which I would not), what would his numbers look like compared to Beckham? Nevermind. Instead of actually looking at anything or attempting to analyze anything, let's just bash on this team. It's not like this is the first time since Bledsoe was quarterback that the team finished above 0.500.

Sorry, but Dareus out versus Oakland showed me exactly how important he is. No pass rush versus Brady = shellacking by the Patriots. Brady is too good of a **** chunk to not tear our team apart and Orton is too poor of a **** chunk to pull us to victory on the road. 8-8 it is.

What makes the OP even more idiotic is that Bowles signed a 3-year extension to his contract in November 2014. Makes it an even greater "Madden" mentality idea than even before. Might as well have asked that Tom Brady be our OC next season. :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

You can't teach an offensive line that lacks the physical ability to be good run blockers to be good run blockers. There's been plenty off offensive players that can and have been good with any offense. Look at Mike Evans this year. 3 different crap QB's and he's still a candidate for ROY.

If we had an even average offense, our defense WOULD be ranked the best in the NFL. That's not what's wrong with this team. If you want to build off of what's already good, then maybe you consider promoting the DC to HC and get a new OC. There is not a chance in hell that you have a 3rd defensive system in 3 years. That's just stupid "Madden" mentality. For me, I would like to see Marrone stay for at least one more year. I wouldn't mind seeing Hackett replaced with someone better. Heck, if someone invents an app for the iphone 6 that randomly calls plays, that might actually be better than Hackett. That might be a stretch, but then again, it might actually be a good thing.

In 1999, I was 5 years removed from college living in a high rise in downtown Chicago. Can't bill-ieve it's been that long.

While I haven't breached the 5-0 yet, I've been a Bills fan for almost 40 years. I'm conflicted, but in a different sense. I watch a defense that has kept the team in the game MOST of the time. If we had an even mediocre offense, we would be in the playoffs no question. Quite unbelievably, this defense is actually better than what it was last year. The problem is that we haven't been able to put a top-10 offense on the field since Doug Flutie in 1998. My conflict now is with that. The defense can't get much better than it already is. They can however, get older. That's what we're going to start to see, and it's sad. I guess I'm desperately optimistic that somehow things will change. The offense though has become a predictable mess. They will play to the level of their competition and find a way to win games they shouldn't and lose games that they have no business losing. It's this "middling" approach that will leave them a 0.500 team and on the outside looking in. I won't watch the Patriots game next week because it's a waste of time. I can spend it doing something more fruitful, like taking down Christmas ornaments. It's too bad, but it's where we are.

Spot on! How about this one?

The big part of the problem yesterday is simple. -2. That's the only statistic that you really need to know. In the history of the NFL, when you are -2 in turnovers, you lose the game 95% of the time. This game is squarely on the shoulders of Kyle Orton and the offensive play calling of Hackett. As has been typical, Hackett has this team playing to the level of the competition in lieu of playing to win. It's bush league. I've used this analogy before. Hackett is playing checkers when everyone else is playing chess, and Orton just isn't good enough to overcome terrible game planning.

There couldn't be a more stupid post. EJ has no trade value. What do you think the Bills can "showcase" in one game on the road against the Patriots that they haven't already done so with 10 starts? Unless someone is a complete idiot, there is no circumstance where EJ's value is anything more than a fish taco and a diet shasta.

All comes down to turnovers folks. You get 3 takeaways by the defense and the offense gives them right back. It's not the refs. It's execution. Good teams know how to take turnovers and turn them into points. Mediocre teams like this one, figure out ways to lose. They're basically a better version of a bad Jets team.

That wasn't a gesture. He just missed...

My big question marks for the game start with whether the Bills get pressure with just 4. I think if they don't that's bad. If they send more than 4, I think that's going to end badly as well. From there defensively, do our corners (as they have been doing all year) start off giving a 5-7 yard cushion to opposing WR's? If they do, that will be bad. Manning will eat us alive. Got to make him beat you with plays that take time to develop such that you give time for the front 4 to do their thing. I'm not worried about the running game. Bills have done an excellent job for the most part in that department. Just don't want to see big plays ala Jamaal Charles did to them. Offensively, bigger questions. Can the offense stay on the field and move the ball? Too many short possessions in that Cleveland game make me worry a little. Can they finally deliver in the red zone? 1 for 11 TD's versus Cleveland is horrible. The Broncos offense has a whopping 81% TD rate in the red zone at home. That's downright nuts.

I get all of them except the Ravens/Dolphins game. If the Bills and Dolphins both won out and let's just say still didn't get to the Patriots record, the Dolphins win the tiebreaker with Buffalo. Let's say the Bills Ravens win out instead. Buffalo wins the tiebreaker over Baltimore. I know the scenario must be more complicated than that, so consider me dense. 36% chance with a 3-1 record seems crazy low to me.