Luxy312

Missing from logical thinking here is what's already on the Bills roster. Last year, the Bills used Dareus primarily as a three technique two-gap run stopper. Anyone that knows anything about football would tell you that you do not give a $100m contract to a defensive lineman to be a two-gap run stopper. Reed IMO represents the perfect pick for the Bills. Put him in the middle and bump Dareus to the outside. You also already have Hughes on the outside along with Kyle Williams. At #19, and for what he's actually done in his college career, he's a perfect fit. Could they still pick an OLB with that first pick in the draft? Sure they could. They did visit Darron Lee (who should be gone well before #19) and Leonard Floyd. At the end of the day, I see Floyd as a fallback position if they don't get their guy.

I'm going to be at the actual draft in Chicago.

First, I don't care what Bradford wants. He can sit out of camp all he wants. He'll just be giving up as much as $1.375 million of his signing bonus this season. So is he going to pout and not show up because the Eagles traded for their QB of the future? Doubtful. Second, please find me the team that represents the trading partner. He's guaranteed $7m this season and $4m next, with the possibility of that $4m becoming $13m if he remains the starter. To boot, he has a roster bonus of $4m. So $7m is his cost this year and next it's $17m. Add to that the fact that the Eagles would have to eat an additional $5.5m in bonus proration this year 2106 compared to their $9.8m in cap space. Makes absolutely ZERO sense, and even less than that on the Bills roster.

Except as I said, and which you have ignored, every first draft pick for the Bills in the last 10 years has been a visit. So you prescribing it to be "limited value", or whatever it is you're actually saying, doesn't fit with reality. Last year, their visits were all over the board in terms of draft position versus their picks. Clearly, they were considering potentially moving around if the opportunity presented itself. Half of the visits they're allowed this year are clumped around their first two picks. Getting an extra pick at #65 doesn't seem to mean anything to me based on what they're actually doing. If a trade down had the value that you're suggesting that it had, I would expect more visits than just ONE guy that is slotted around where they would pick if they traded. Not very smart front office thinking if that's the reality.

New England will do what it's done before. Garoppolo will start. Maybe they go to free agency to get a backup, but at the end of the day, they're going with the guy that knows the Patriots system for cheating. At the end of the day and kidding aside, they will go with what they know and see what happens.

You're not following my logic. 8 of their visits from a draft board perspective are slotted right around their pick at #19. Looking at average position, why would they visit with guys going #12, #14, #15, #16, #18, #19, #20, and #23 if their master plan is to trade down from #19 to #31? That's essentially 8 wasted visits out of the 30 that they're allowed. Why do that? It's the equivalent of staying at the #19 pick and adding Goff, Wentz, and Tunsil to your visit list. It's folly and doesn't follow logic at all. I guess I'm trying to read the tea leaves here.

I'm gonna qualify mine, that it only includes guys that have visited with the Bills so far. For 10 years running, the first draft pick has been one of the 30 allowed to visit the team. Love: Sheldon Rankins - DL, Leonard Floyd - LB, or Jarran Reed - DT. I think any of these guys are immediate starters, which is what I would expect with the #19 pick overall. Hate: Eli Apple - CB, Jack Conklin - OT, Taylor Decker - OT. The Bills already have one of the top-10 defensive backfields with what they have now. Apple is a luxury pick. Picking either of the OT's suggests they're already planning on passing on Glenn next season. Why pay this much for a RT unless you're moving them to LT next year and then you just need another RT. Expect: Jarran Reed. I think Rankins is long gone by the time they pick or he would be the easy choice. Reed is a great fallback as a 3 technique guy and moves Dareus outside to wreck havoc as a pass rusher. Immediate defensive upgrade.

I didn't say Butler didn't visit. All I said is that the Bills (as to most other teams) have him as second round value and not first. He sits right in between their two picks which to me makes it highly unlikely that they would just trade down to 31 and then pray that he's still there. At the end of the day, I didn't see any more than anyone else in terms of game film and ultimately try to guess what the team is doing based on facts. With Butler slotting out between 25-35 where as you have Rankins 10-20 and Reed 15-25, I just don't see the Bills passing on either of the latter two. I guess what I'm trying to get to here is that if your mock had Reed and Rankins both gone and the Bills were set on DT, then the trade down would make more sense. So with 8 of their 22 visits so far slotting pretty close to the 19th pick and another 6 slotting pretty close to the 49th pick and Butler being the only tweener/outlier, it doesn't seem to me that the Bills are thinking trade. Either of us could clearly be wrong, but I'm going with history.

LMAO. "Most NFL ready" yet projected to be picked no sooner than the 5th round. No way in hell do the Bills draft him in the 3rd. A 3rd rounder looks like a Cardale Jones.

Nice work, but for the Bills, there's definitely some missing logic based on the pre-draft visitors. I'm not saying that it's a lock, but the Bills first draft pick for the last 10 years in a row have been visitors to the team. To boot, Buffalo has visited 8 guys that grade out around top-20 picks, of which you only have 4 of those guys going in advance of the Bills pick at #19. What I really don't care for with this "trade down" scenario is that there's two DT's that grade out a LOT higher than Vernon Butler that are still there in Sheldon Rankins and Jarran Reed. To boot, they just visited with Taylor Decker, who is the only guy you suggested they would pick at #19 that could be the pick. They did meet with Joseph, but he grades out to a second rounder, making him a huge reach in the first. Same with Chris Jones, who they haven't met with. Doctson hasn't visited either and I seriously doubt a WR will be a priority for at least the first 3 rounds. They've met with exactly 1 WR out of the 22 guys visiting OBD and that was projected 3-4th round pick Kolby Listenbee.

At #19? Who's smoking crack? Not going to happen.

The speculation here is that they would move up to #2 for QB. What if we have it all wrong here? Clearly the first pick in the draft is going to be Goff or Wentz. What if the Bills look at it as an opportunity to get a sure fire can't miss guy in Tunsil? Here's a guy that can start at RT this season and move to LT next season when they will no longer be able to afford Glenn.

I would be ecstatic with Jarran Reed in this draft. I do agree that the talent is already on the team to succeed, but having that one additional guy on the defensive line is huge. To boot, I don't see any point paying a $100 million contract to a 3 technique nose tackle. Dareus must move to the outside in my opinion. If it's not Jarran Reed, give me Vernon Butler. I know he would be a bit of a reach in the first and not likely to make it to Buffalo in the second round, but I do think the position is that important. My difference maker is not a linebacker and not a defensive end. It's finding the right kid to let our existing difference makers on defense be the factors that they should be. That's Dareus.

Wasn't addressed to you. You should know that, lol. Others in thread were saying "sign him as backup, blah blah blah". Standard idiocy.

I've said this in other threads, but the round 1 pick for Buffalo for the last 10 years running has been one of the 30 visitors to OBD. If you look at the 19 that have already visited, there's only 7 that grade out as first round value. 3 out of those 7 are LB's (Lee, Ragland, Floyd). 2 are DL (Rankins, Reed). Not a single out of the 19 is a WR. Don't see it happening but perhaps late late rounds. For aristocrat, Eli Applie is on that list of 19 and projected to be first round value. Just FYI.

Oh goody. Another "let's sign someone else's reject" post. At the end of the day, this guy has been on four different teams in his seven year career for a reason. The single game or limited games observations being made by some are no more than what I would coin the "Rob Johnson defense". It's about the equivalent of saying that because Ryan Fitzpatrick had the best season of his career last season, that somehow that's now his downside. I actually like the Matt Cassel comparison, but would suggest that Hoyer is a slightly better version of Matt Cassel. Little better rating, TD/Int ratio, sack %, INT %. But only slightly.

So for something like the last 10 years running, the Bills have selected someone in the first round that has made the visit. By visit, I don't mean met at the combine or saw him at his pro day, but one of the actual 30 visits allowed to the team. By WGR's account (if they're right), there have been or as been scheduled 19 visits. Of those 19, there's only 7 that are on most boards that would be good first round value for the Bills, assuming that they stay at #19. 3 Linebackers - Darron Lee, Reggie Ragland, Leonard Floyd 2 Defensive Linemen - Shelden Rankins, Jarran Lee 1 Cornerback - Eli Apple 1 Offensive Lineman - Taylor Decker I'll be interested who else they may add between now and draft day that grades out as first round value. I'm a bit surprised that we didn't see A'Shawn Robinson or Robert Nkemdiche on the list yet. Apple and Decker both appear to me at least, to be serious fall back picks if too many of the key positions of need are gone already. None the less, I've been saying it will be Jarran Lee for a long time now. Interestingly, they've only scheduled visits with 5 guys that grade out where they pick in the second round, with two of their visitors kind of tweeners on the draft board. Vernon Butler and Connor Cook should both be gone 15-20 picks before them in the second round. Butler would be a reach in the first to say the least. The other three guys sitting right their on boards around their pick are Emmanuel Ogbah, Su'a Cravens, and Vonn Bell. This draft is shaping up to be defense-defense in the first two rounds, IMO. Regardless of what happens, I always look closely at the first round value visitors based on history.

To beat the proverbial dead horse, what do people expect? There's virtually no cap space when you consider what they'll need to sign draft picks. Minimal to no draft space means looking for guys that could be potential gems in the rough. Whether that's a Hankerson that's played #2 fiddle to Pierre Garcon or a Greg Little that has played with virtually talentless QB's in Cleveland. This guy could be nice depth, which is all that he should be. My expectation is that Gilmore and Darby will be the starters for most, if not all of the season to come.

Agreed, but to me then, not one they intend to resolve through the draft. My logic is pretty simple here really. Why add three guys since the end of the season when they've only lost one? Why add three guys that won't even work out with Tyrod until well after the draft is well beyond done? Right or wrong, I think the front office believes either one or a combination of the three replaces Chris Hogan. I wouldn't even consider Harvin a loss. He barely played last year and still has a chance to return. I'll agree to disagree here, but am expecting the Bills to draft defense with their first two picks of the draft, unless the right offensive lineman is there.

Folks, in the last 10 years, the Bills have drafted a player in the first round (absent the year without a first round pick), that visited with the team. So why do I bring that up? Out of the 30 visits that the Bills (and every other team) are allowed by the NFL, 13 are scheduled. Out of those 13 scheduled, only 3 are on the offensive side of the ball, with two being quarterbacks. Neither Dak Prescott or Cardale Jones are being drafted anywhere close to the first round. Taylor Decker is slated to meet with the team, so OL could be an option. In this scenario, Decker would likely start at RT this year and be a potential option to move to LT, should they not be able to lock up Glenn to a long term contract. Of the other 4 guys that grade out as first round material, Darron Lee, Reggie Ragland, and Shelden Rankins all make sense to me. Rex's defenses have always relied upon the linebackers to make the calls on the field and the Bills need to replace Bradham. Rankins makes sense as well, as they could move Dareus to the outside to play 5 technique and have Rankins clog the middle. The guy that makes a little less sense is Eli Apple, unless they're also assuming that it's possible that Gilmore will walk next year or they just want more quality defensive backs. After all, that's part of the model of "beating Tom Brady". Pressure up front plus quality coverage in the secondary. I personally think those thinking WR are drunk. There's 10 WR's on their roster already and the Bills signed 3 new guys since January, including Jarrett Boykin, Greg Little, and Leonard Hankerson. They also re-signed Greg Salas. Easley isn't going anywhere and they still have Wood, Goodwin, Powell, and Lewis. So unless they start dropping WR's and more important, actually having WR's visit two bills drive, it's highly unlikely that we'll see WR in the first.

I was particularly amused with "that's my state of Hampton........(long pause).....Virginia". I almost got the sense that he actually lived in a state called "Hampton". If he gets his passes off a little quicker and shows me that he can throw the intermediate passing routes, I'm on board for him as the franchise guy.

At the end of the day, Goodwin counts $860K against the cap if the Bills keep him and only about $150K against the cap if they cut him. To boot, they have signed 3 new WR's to the roster since January. If I were a betting man, based on his productivity in his career to date, I would have to believe he's gone. Can't really say I care.

He's not going to be charged, because there is no evidence that he did anything wrong. His attorney has stated the same. Goodell is going to be hard pressed to do anything without facts supporting his position. As I said early on in this thread, the longer the Phily D.A. takes to determine whether they will even file charges, the less and less likely it is that it will actually happen. Being around an incident where you did nothing wrong is not a violation of the Personal Conduct Policy. The NFLPA would have a field day if Goodell does anything.

I question whether Ragland can actually cover when he needs to cover. With Lee, there's no question that he's demonstrated that ability in college as well as being good in run support. I look at Ragland as more of a one-dimensional prospect. He probably does his "one dimension" as good as anyone, but that's not what the Bills will be looking for in the first round.

Cleveland is a dumpster fire that let most of their talented players walk. Who's he going to throw to? All he has is Gary Barnidge. The offensive line is terrible and entire defense is a steaming pile of garbage. Almost zero chance do I give him.