Luxy312

Great article Yolo. With the proper context of the crappy salary cap situation that the Jets are actually facing, the "just pay him" mentality clearly falls short of reality. I didn't even realize that almost $1.8m of the $3.5m cap that they had left would likely be used still to sign draft picks. Not good!

They shot 23 3-pointers last night and made 5. I don't care how much more emphasis you put on shooting the long ball, when you're not hitting it, you're losing. 35% from the field overall is a dumpster fire. 7 Turnovers from their biggest star is simply unacceptable.

Just for fun as a child of 80's music.... On "Any Other Day", I wouldn't have much to say about Bon Jovi. He was like a "Woman in Love" when "The Fire Inside" was lit and he tried to buy the team. When his "Secret Dreams" of moving to Toronto came to the public, the "Ordinary People" of WNY made "No Apologies" in hoping he wasn't the "Last Man Standing" in the bid process. The Pegula's let the fans know that the Bills would "Always" be in WNY and made JBJ drink the "Bitter Wine" and let him know that he could "Blame it on the Love of Rock & Roll" that he lost. WNY's "Crazy Love" for this team had the Pegula's echoing "I Love This Town" as they hired RR to be the HC. "Maybe Someday" they'll win it all. Maybe in the "Next 100 Years" or perhaps "Only in my Dreams" and not in "Real Life" at all. None the less, I'll be in the "Seat Next to You", "Starting all over again" this fall, hoping that RR can give is "Something to Believe in".

Talib is just another idiot wannabe thug going places and doing things he shouldn't. Could care less about guys like this to be perfectly frank. Maybe next time the shot will be in the temple and we can just call it good.

This might be the last year of his career, and then again it may not. Adolphus Washington was clearly a draft pick intended up upgrade the next guy behind Kyle Williams that would otherwise be just an "OK" Corbin Bryant. His cap figure for this year is $6.25 million. That's a pretty healthy number considering his performance last year, but not that bad if they get what they got out of him in the 2013-2014 years. There's only $1.5 million of dead money on the 2017 year of his deal, which is also the last year. I seriously doubt that the Bills take the $8.3 million cap hit in 2017 for him unless he lights it up this year. If he wanted to play beyond this year, maybe a restructured contract and more shared playing time? Bryant is getting $1.671 million for this year and is not under contract going forward. He's pretty much playing for his last opportunity to be a starter or share starter time. He's 28 to Kyle's 32, so not that far away from being done either. He's certainly a locker room guy for this team, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I've been seconding this notion for a long time and people keep coming up with stupidity in terms of logical ways that the Jets can magically create cap space from the cap hell that they're actually in right now. Looking at the collective contracts on their roster, the most I can come up with to pay him would be around $8 million. There is no magic bullet answer to paying this average journeyman a bunch of money without hurting the team long term.

There's nothing but downside for him to talk at this point. If his advisers are smart, they'll tell him to stay quiet until any possible litigation action statute of limitations has passed. I don't give a rats ass what the media wants. Most of them are no better than tabloid reporters trying to manufacture stories to sell their rag. Most fans at this point have already moved past it to boot. I could care less.

You can cite his numbers from last year all you want and it won't matter. Here's what matters to me. 33 year old quarterback with 11 years NFL experience on 6 different teams. For 10 years, he's been average to below average. Hey, quick question and yes, I will wait. Who else is jumping in to offer your 3,900 yards and 31 TDs quarterback a contract? Thus far nobody. Certainly not the Jets. If $12m was SUCH a good deal for any NFL team, then where's the list of suitors lining up to bid on him? I'm hearing crickets here. In regards to Wilkerson, the Jets aren't going to put themselves in future cap hell for a journeyman QB. That's just plain stupid (if the Jets were considering it, not you). Just think about what that would mean. If you make years 2-3 the MINIMUM to make the guarantee happen, that means $17.25m per year cap hit for him in those years. Fill out the rest and his base salary in years 4-5 would be $21.75m + $6.0 prorated bonus. Wilkerson is 26 and they're just not doing that for a guy in the peak of his career to get a 33 YO that's had 1 good year out of 11. By the way, with your example, the Jets would have to either take a $27.75 million cap hit in year 4 of his contract or release him and have $12.0 million in dead money for that year. That would be for a 29 year old DE who could be one of the best still in the NFL at that time.

Your arguments are usually pretty good, but I find your take on Fitzpatrick pretty weak for a number of reasons. First, you're assuming that Wilkerson's cap number can be reduced from $15.7m to less than 10. That's an absolute pipe dream. You know he's asking for JJ Watt type money, right? So for his 6 year extension, JJ Watt is counting $14.5m, $14.5m, $15.0m, $15.0m, $15.5m, $17.5m for 2016 on. ZERO chance Wilkerson takes a home town 33% discount when he's considered by many to be the 2nd best DE in the league. That's fail #1. Giacomini saves you $4.375m. That coupled with what they have already gives them $7.475m in cap space. To boot, you're assuming that they would be willing to give a multi-year $12m per year deal to a journeyman QB that's not the future of the franchise. You can't avoid facts based on what you think is convenient. The Jets are in dead money cap hell and they're not going to make it worse by signing a guy that thus far, no other team in the NFL, even wants. Certainly not at the price you're suggesting. BTW, using the Bills as a proxy example is a big fail as well. Buffalo has $13.6 million of cap space right now. They wouldn't give Tyrod the mega-deal before this season starts, but could certainly afford the $12m figure per year we're talking about. My guess is that for Buffalo's situation that both the team and Tyrod are holding their cards tight to the chest. If Tyrod performs, he gets $18m per year and a lot of guaranteed money. If he doesn't perform, the Bills can simply look for their QB of the future, perhaps in next year's draft.

Great points in this post and many fans love to simply ignore facts when using their jumping to conclusions mats. Let's just start with the presumption that Fitz is worth somewhere in the range of $10-12 million per year for 2-3 years with some guaranteed money. Maybe he is and maybe he isn't worth that much. The Jets have a total of $3.1 million available to spend and already have lost 4 defensive starters from last year. Damon Harrison, Demario Davis, Calvin Pace and Antonio Cromartie. They have players penciled in to replace them, but Harrison and Davis will be missed on defense. How do they make room for a $10-12 million QB this year? There's simply not many guys on their roster that they could or would cut/trade to make room for an aging quarterback that isn't the future of the franchise. Wilkerson will get you $15.7 million, but the defense immediately takes a big dump. Mangold gets you $8.6 million. Enough to do it, but now your offensive line takes a serious hit with having to start Wesley Johnson. Do you cut Eric Decker to save $3.5 million or Ryan Clady for $3.0? I'm not sure you start parting with starters to make room for the Amish Rifle. They would have to find a way to trade guys that right now would have an even worse impact on their roster if they were just cut. Buster Skrine for example is a $7.75 million cap hit for them in 2016. Cutting him would add another $2.5 million to that hit. Who is going to trade for a player that's performing under their pay grade with a guaranteed contract? Their actions as you say (sort of) are following conventional reasoning that they're somewhat handcuffed in their situation of having a ton of dead money on their roster.

With all the talk, I don't know as though it matters. In his 12 years in the NFL as a DC, Rob Ryan has produced just 2 seasons that are worth mentioning as being good defensively. The remaining 10 are not so much underwhelming, but bottom half of the NFL bad, sometimes bottom quarter. Rex has had some success though with defenses, and that's mainly in years where he's had a good rushing attack on the offensive side of the ball. I'm interested in seeing what they can do this year, no doubt.

Buffalo Bisons running 3 promotions under "keep Brady suspended" tonight. -Buy one get one free tickets if you bring in a properly inflated football for donation to youth football programs -Bring in a cell phone (for free ticket) that hasn't been destroyed for donation to Cell Phones for Soldiers -If you name is Tom or Brady, sit out the first 4 innings of the game OR give a ridiculous alias and get in for free LMAO. Checkmate, Buffalo Bisons.

It's hard not to like Rex when you hear him talk about his players and the team. He flat out refuses to throw anyone under the bus.

Typically a 6-8 week recovery timeline, but not going to worry about it. The key with stress fractures/hairline fractures is not trying to come back too soon. I'm not ready to labeling him as a perpetual injury risk quite yet.

Depending on the absolute truth, either the Jets or Fitz could have leverage. If the Jets are fine with starting Geno Smith in lieu of paying Fitz, then they hold the cards. They can't force him to sign with them, but the likelihood of another starting opportunity for him isn't likely there. On the flip side, if they're not and Fitz is truly willing to retire versus taking less money, then he's got the leverage. Either way, NY is it's usual **** show!

Fixed that for you. This thread has turned into the same dumpster fire that is Brian Hartline's career in its twilight.

You're suggesting his career numbers are indicative of his ability NOW. That's my point. He's heading to the wrong side of 30 and he's slow. His last two seasons weren't as good as Woods last two season and Woods didn't even play as much. If you said "anyone but Watkins, Woods, and Clay", then maybe we would agree, but that still doesn't do anything for me. IMO, it's no different than saying let's sign a fourth QB. Basically irrelevant.

That's just your opinion and I'll go ahead and reject it is being simply that. They have 3 rookies that we have ZERO idea if they'll be decent or not. They have 9 other guys not named Sammy Watkins, several of which hasn't taken a single pass from Taylor yet. In terms of Woods, he's almost 6 years younger and physically bigger. They may both be #3's, but that doesn't make him an upgrade over anything. Most plays, it's going to be Watkins, Woods, and Clay on the field anyway. A lateral move doesn't make him an upgrade over anything.

Doomed. Simply doomed. Call it a year already. Time to rebuild.

His last productive year was 3 years ago. Yeh, I'm missing something.

Even if there were hostility, I'm not sure it matters. It's been said before by both front offices and players. The NFL is a business. If you treat it like it's not, it can come back to bite you in the ass. They tagged him and he didn't complain. He's working on a deal and neither side is complaining. Why on earth would anyone risk injury in a situation like he's in, to attend VOLUNTARY camp? He's got nothing to prove to anyone and will be the day 1 starter barring an injury. That's just a simple fact.

Every year, we see these same posts. Let's sign someone else's aging, non-performing piece of trash because by some special feat of magic, his career will be revived with the Bills. Enter Brian Hartline. A slow 6-2 slender dude that's been hurt almost every season of his career and going on 30 years old. We'll just work on where he fits on the depth chart that already includes 13 players, including 3 rookies. I know they brought in Andre Roberts, but am guessing they have him pegged as a PR/KR specialist based on his experience. He's also a year younger and despite being 3 inches shorter, is 12 pounds heavier. At the end of the day, Hartline may have been relevant 3 years ago. At this point, I would take a pass.

Threads like these are funny. They didn't used to be funny prior to the signing of the new collective bargaining agreement in 2014, because teams could be in "win now" mode versus rebuilding. In this era, EVERY team in the NFL is in "win now" mode, or whatever you want to call it. Here's my breakdown of why this is a fact and not really even open for discussion. First, this isn't the 1980's. During that time, immediately prior to the expired CBA, there wasn't a cap. Teams could literally spend as little or as much as they wanted to win and boy did teams to this. The Cowboys and the 49ers had the highest payroll of any team in the NFL at that time. They were spending some $30-$40 million more than the lowest spenders in the NFL because they could. Teams that struggled didn't spend. After that first salary cap, that changed a bit. There were less "big spenders" and the level of competition leveled a little bit. BUT, there still was the ability to not spend if a team felt like they couldn't compete. Remember the Bills "cash to cap" nonsense? This was basically saying that they weren't going to spend because they knew they didn't have the team to complete. Now dial it forward to the agreement in 2014. Two things happened. First, the cap number jumped through the roof because of the definition of what was included in shared revenue. Second, a salary floor was added. Teams basically would be penalized if they don't spend to the salary floor. There's some subtle complexities that I won't get into, but the floor was phased in. Year 1 teams had to spend 85% of the cap. Year 2, that grew to 89%. This year it's 95% and will go up again next year. Small amounts may be carried forward to spend in future years (if you don't spend it), but it's certainly not on the level of being able to tank a year to gain a meaningful advantage. This is unless of course you're assuming that would be taking for a draft that is a complete wild card the next season. The concept of being "win now" versus something else is dead for the NFL. It's alive and kicking for the NBA, NHL, and most certainly for MLB. While it was a historical truth, it's now just history for the NFL.

I'll call him "Meh" Roberts, because he's pretty unimpressive to me. Good receivers don't spend six years in the NFL bouncing between NFL teams mostly as a PR/KR guy. In 121 PR/KR, the guy has one TD. To boot, the Bills already have 13 WR's on the roster, including 3 rookies. Not happening.

Well said/written!