WVUFootball29

Ziemba Unless Robert Sands S WVU is still on the board.

gilbert

Not worried...Henne can't run an offense like that to save his life

in 16 games this year Lynch rushed for 737 yards and 6 TDs on 202 carries for an average of 3.6 YPC. Wow man I'm disappointed we gave all that production up for only a 4th round pick. Cmon guys, outside of that highlight reel run he was 28th in yards and tied for 17th in TDs. Nothing too impressive for a former 1st round pick.

While he's not as gifted as his brothers, the kid has great lineage and passion for the game. He's a player and will hold his own at the next level

Was impressed with Blanc last night. Could he be another sleeper behind a star DT ala Kyle Williams behind Claude Wroten?

closest I see in that timeframe is Royce McKinney DB http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/05680221

No luck with my search. Do you have a rough estimate of the years he would have played? My guess he was a practice squad guy

Starting another cycle of P90X today. Let myself go a little bit after vacation and need to get a few more pounds off. I start today at 5'9 188lbs, looking to get back to my college baseball weight of 165-170 and lean. Here we go again

I like that draft a lot

Don't like it, Peterson and Amukamara are better picks than Quinn with Fairley off the board. Best bet, make Arizona believe you're taking Newton and try to work a trade

You're right, forgot about that game and when I went back through the game logs pulling W-L records I must have missed that. Good catch

You can take it anyway you want to far as I'm concerned

Yes, the playoff starting QBs for the year. Sorry I was racist... Flacco, they make their money in the pocket, not on the run.

Where did I make this a black and white issue? You were the only one to bring it up

Add one more race comment to this thread and I'm closing it crayonz. Either come up with a good argument or disappear.

Where do you make the majority of your living as a QB? In the pocket or on the run? Vick, Flutie, etc making more plays on the run and outside the pocket = scrambler. My beef with Newton and his type of QB, is that when they can't make a big play down field, they run and try to use their athletic ability to their advantage instead of spreading the ball around making defenses respect all receivers. Newton has gotten away with it in college, many QBs have, but it doesn't work at the NFL level.

Walterfootball is a lot like Carson Palmer, overrated

I do and will for my future ones as well.

I should have known better than to waste my time posting when you've got guys like crayonz and Beebe's Kid who would turn this into a white and black thing. BTW ieatBFinIndiana, Elway never rushed for over 304 yards in a season so that would hardly classify him as an athletic/scrambling QB. While I admit that maybe I should have used the term scrambling more so than athletic since it was interpreted differently than I intended my point remains valid, scrambling QBs do not win in the NFL. Guys who rely on pure athleticism at the QB position do not win in the NFL (Steve Young being the outlier here, but was a great passer in his own right). Being mobile in the pocket is great for a QB, but that does not classify them as an athletic/scrambler in this argument (again sorry for the misunderstanding) and at the end of the day they are still making their money plays from the pocket. Addressing the "old war/last war" analysis theory, the super athletic, scrambling passing QB revolution has been coming for years and I have yet to see it in the NFL. It works in college where the talent levels between two teams varies greatly and one super athlete can dominate the game, but it has yet to work at the NFL level. To plan for the future that has supposedly been coming for 20 years now would be fool-hardy. At the end of the day, my money is on the QB who can think on his feet vs the guy who tries to beat you with his feet.

Can a mod please remove crayons from this thread?

I like the way you phrased that. Guys like Brees are mobile, but pocket mobile. they buy time with their feet, but rarely use them to attack a defense. Bold statement is what this team needs, a guy who can move the ball down the field and find a way to get the ball to the right guy to score

Armour All or any type of carnuba wax should do the trick. Just give it a good buffing as the others have said.

Well, it’s that time of year again as Bills fans prepare for the NFL draft and the long, long offseason. With Ralph Wilson personally stating that this team will be looking for a quarterback to lead the rebuilding efforts of Buddy Nix and Company, many fans are anxious to see who the Bills select as their next martyr…I mean QB. The top names on Buffalo fan’s lists are Andrew Luck and Cam Newton; which brings about the debate of which type of QB the Bills should select. Andrew Luck is your classic Pocket Passer in the mold of greats like Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, and (sorry I have to include him) Tom Brady. Cam on the other hand is an athletic freak of nature with a strong arm like Michael Vick or Randall Cunningham. Both have had great success in short careers at the college level, but which one would be best to anchor the rebuilding efforts of our beloved Buffalo Bills? Let’s take a look at some numbers and facts to find out. Starting with this year’s NFL Playoffs quarterbacks; out of 12 players, only 1 (Michael Vick) is truly considered to an athletic quarterback. The rest: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Matt Cassel, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck (if healthy), and Jay Cutler fall more into the mold of the Pocket Passer. Not very good odds for a scrambling type QB. Now take a look at Super Bowl winning QB, or even Super Bowl participating QBs and you have to go back to 1995 when Steve Young won it with the 49ers (case could be made for McNabb in 05 but nothing about him screams athletic.) and even then it is a rarity that an athletic QB carries a team through the playoffs and to victory. My take on this is that the athletic QBs who do a lot of running take much more punishment throughout the season than the pocket guys. Take a look at Michael Vick’s career; across 8 seasons in the NFL, he only played all 16 games once in his career (2006) and has a career record of 47-38-1, but a playoff record of 2-3 and has yet to advance past the divisional round. If you look at this game long http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=2549&sYear=2010 you’ll see a trend that his statistics tail off each season towards the end. I attribute this to him wearing physically and teams being able to game plan against him more effectively. Also, I believe the problem with athletic, scrambling QBs is that while they are fun to watch and make lots of highlight reels, taking away one facet of their game (Vick’s scrambling) via a game plan leaves them vulnerable when they have to rely on one other skill. Now, take a look at (ugh) Tom Brady and the Patriots. Teams that try to take away Brady’s passing lanes typically end up being run over by no name running backs like Danny Woodhead, Sammy Morris, etc. Then once the opposition has to respect the run, Brady gets to pick apart the defense with this arm. Same can be said in Indianapolis with Manning. Outside of this season how many times have you seen Vick pick apart a defense with this arm? While athletic QBs are certainly fun to watch on the field and on ESPN, when the chips are down I’m going to place my money on a Pocket Passer. 11 out of 12 playoff teams can’t be wrong, and the point of rebuilding is to get to the playoffs and Super Bowl correct?

It would have been closer if Philip Rivers remembered he had a game on Sunday