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This sounds realistic.. I got Whaley/ Cooter

Q, it is the middle of the night, my old man behind can't sleep, I have watched this 4 times and can't stop laughing ! Thank you for the post!

I never mentioned playing Jones, just NOT playing Tyrod due to the injury clause. It is a huge risk, with a spindly QB still running options and taking huge hits every game, especially one who gets $27M if he tears an ACL or has a shoulder injury that takes 4 months to recover. The injury guarantee is pretty standard is these contracts now, especially ones with the second bonus structure. His agent would never get another client if it was not included. So ain't blaming Overdorf for this one, unlike the Darius contract with no clawbacks for suspensions and behaviour etc. And make no mistake, it is Overdorf who writes the contracts, not Whaley.

different era completely...that's why i went back to 90...

I did as well...but I have spent the last 4 hours going through records...and you can really see it either happens year 2, or it just does not happen for the vast majority of coaches. Now, there are exceptions where year 1 was a total re-build, year two huge improvement but still under 500, and then year 3 playoffs..Jimmy Johnson fits there. But so few and far between...we have just become programmed to this idea of "continuity", but unless i am missing something the results do not support the continuity argument.

Totally agree...and the Pats did the right thing. But if the Bills fire Rex , you are going to hear the same old tired argument of "they will never win cause they have no continuity"...no, they never win cause they hire the wrong coaches...and need to keep swinging to they find the right ones...just like the Pats did by firing Carroll with a winning record and hiring hoodie.

Thought of him, but Couple of arguments 1) no playoff wins in 15 years...so yes some success in terms of getting to the playoffs, but zero success in actually winning something. 2) record in the 3 years immedialtly before Marvin was hired..6-10, 4-12, 2-14...Decade of the 90's record was 52-108 8-8 seasons were like Manna from heaven ! Rex inherited a 8-7 team... As i am now obsessed with this argument, this may be the greatest fallacy in all of sports, at least when it pertains to the NFL. Jeff Fisher is an interesting one, pretty much .500 first 4 years, but dealt with the franchise move in there as well. Hoodie had a losing record first two at Browns is next closest really.

No, it's the super smart fan base that says if TT gets hurt in one of these 3 MEANINGLESS games, he hamstrings our cap next year. Or are you saying you are 100% certain you want TT to be the starter next year, and 100% the Bills should exercise the option. Cause that's what you are doing if he gets hurt. And lets not forget, the same guy you quote as saying Jones to raw, also said this week he is not ready to commit to TT as the starter. So can't have it both ways.

so , trying to bring this back around LOL. The argument i keep hearing to keep Rex (except for Alpha, who makes several good points) is always the all encompassing "keep him for continuity..good teams always have continuity"... my contention is that the teams that have continuity have it because the coaches won early...so i am trying to find example where that may not be the case. Pete Carrol two years at 7-9 was a great example. I can think of a ton of places where the converse is true..keeping a coach for "continuity" sake that just gets fired later ...

man , it is going to ugly at the stadium this week...trying to convince myself to go...pretty much had the bags packed, but rethinking that with this assinine decison. And for me, it is really all about that injury guarantee...why risk 16M in cap next year with a scrawny, run first QB that could have a 12 month injury.

you have got to be freaking kidding me...only good thing now is going to an embarrassing loss and a firing immediately after the game.

argh...good call. Course one of those years they were in the playoffs at 7-9 LOL. The Pats thing drives me nuts., how they are considered the model franchise with this great "continuity" . Just looked at Carrol's record there.. 10-6 Playoffs 9-7 Playoffs 8-8 Fired So 27-21, gets fired, but they are a model franchise. No, they knew they could do better, and obviously did.

Very few fans seem to want to keep Rex and crew for "continuity", but the national pundits will always say "that is why bad teams continue to lose, no continuity" . Golic and Schefter this morning went off on t how foolish it would be to fire Rex after 2 years, and then pointing out the Steelers have had 3 coaches in 40 years, the Pats aren't changing coaches etc. My argument is the Pats had a revolving door at coach till they finally struck gold with Belichick, and the Steelers have just continued to win...so they are no doubt an outlier. Here is my question...can anyone remember a coach or team that had a losing or .500 record in first two years, or a second year that was not trending up, that then went on to huge success in years 3-7 etc by staying with same coach? Maybe Ron Rivera fits the Bill...BB in Cleveland in the early 90's...i cant think of any others. I want ammunition to argue against this asinine argument that winning teams have continuity...they have continuity cause they win if the first couple of years...not because they stay with coaches who are not showing improvement. The big error the Bills make is not firing coaches too soon...the big error is they can't pick a decent coach to start. If anything, i think they stay with bad coaches too long!

I can't see clubs going up unless there are changes that get the fan base excited. And , good thing your lovely wife likes to come to the games...$5,500 spent on the Bills and i am in divorce court.

man, just saw an image of the Coliseum at the start of the game yesterday...wow first year in LA and already only half full. I am sure that a lot to do with it, especially with news today construction on stadium not getting necessary permits for cranes...bad week in LA !

see, i am not the only who watches the standings in December. .. http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/sabres-standing-still-weak/ BTW, how dopey is the NHL scoring system when only 1 team is below .500 in an entire conference!

Ha...kids and i call what my wife does "the walk" ...no matter where we are or where we are leaving, she has to walk the area and search for forgotten things etc! Also, my wife is very courteous, and will never take the last piece of pizza, the last wing, the last beer etc. All fine and good,except when it come to things like cereal, grapes, cookies..etc. I used to look in the pantry, see a big box of Honey Nut cheerios, think all set!. Till the next morning you go to pour a bowl , and you get like 12 cheerios from the bottom of the bag. Learned my lesson after about 10 years of that, and now do a weekly cleanup of fridge and pantry of all the stuff that has about a 1/2 serving left!

Alpha, you make some good points, but the lack of mental toughness on this team the last two years is readily apparent in my estimation. Any little adversity, and they crumble. Yes, QB is a big part of that, but that D does not exactly make stops at critical junctures either. And yes, it has been that way for 17 years...dont care. Keep trying until you find someone that changes it. The Bills D is making the same simple communication errors it game 13 of year 2 as it made in game 1 of year 1 under Rex. Think i counted 4 times yesterday when the Bills were late getting the right D players on the field...that is just not acceptable.

Bingo!!!

I was impressed to see a poster in there with the screen name of "Tyrods Tailor" ...i dont remember seeing that name before...pretty prescient poster if that was his name two years ago...color me impressed!

agreed!

I will take em!

Just to clarify, and this comes from an ADP alum, and i have a wife that has been at ADP for 25 years.....Jay can prolly confirm this as well It is always Betty in payroll, not Cindy. Think Cindy in the picture above is in suite sales!

To answer the OP...yes we can lose, but htink we would have had a better shot at losing if the Niners had won yesterday. Aint no way the Browns are losing the race to the bottom, and until the 49ers win another game, the Browns ain't either. The one game they were winning at half this year that i watched, they yanked the starting QB "looking for a spark"....when they were winning!!! AND PTR, you have the stadium thing nailed. I will prolly go this game if 1) Rex gets fired 2) Tyrod does not start. If Rex is still here and Tyrod starts..i am out! and based on stubhub, not a lot of people planning on going. I am sure lots like me that have not even bothered to list the tickets