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I hear hell is nice this time of year.

hmm, i did not not know the flu shot was an mRNA vaccine. Thanks for the info you very well informed person

now i have been told on here that big phatma and the FDA would never be in lockstep, they only work for the best outcome of us citizend...hmm How many lives did this cost? And cant wait for someone to assail ProPublica as right wing journalism https://www.propublica.org/article/this-scientist-created-a-rapid-test-just-weeks-into-the-pandemic-heres-why-you-still-cant-get-it

We tried to keep off Covid last night, could not. Amazing to me 3 of my relatives insist the point of the vaccine as NEVER EVER to prevent transmission,the whole time it was just so that when you inevitably got Covid, your symptoms would not be as bad. even showing them Fauci and Walensky (sp) saying the exact opposite they insist the message has been the same from day 1 of the vaccines. fascinating study in human behavior.

Boy, is this ever shocking. In 60’years, I have never seen a bigger sham … when the hell did we as people lose our freaking common sense to say “ hey, ya know what, there is a massive conflict here, and we are going to appoint an independent panel to decide through research if we need more freaking shots, not the guys who LTIPs are going to pay tens of millions in bonuses” is that really a controversial statement now? Are we to believe Pfizer and Moderna at all costs? Never question them, especially when they have zero litigation risk?

Well, isnt the mandate back up before the Supreme Court like January 7th?

Heard something interesting today...similar to what should have happened with the stimmy checks if Uncle Joe cared more about the vax than votes. No more federal aid of any kind...SS, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Rent Assistance, Public Housing, Student Loan forgiveness...all of it suspended until you show proof of vaccination. I mean if Uncle Joe wants to take peoples money away if they are not vaxed via employer mandate, why not the constituency that makes their money off the federal government?

And we will be told by @The Frankish Reichand @Sundancer we just don’t understand science and math. But look, less deadly with the vax… but look, like most viruses it is becoming less deadly and more transmissible. but we will be told like clockwork that seasonality and the virus doing virus things has nothing tondo with it, it’s all because of the “ vaccine” this may be the biggest scam in my lifetime, and I closing in on 60. people so desperate to have certainty in their life, so hard to let the narrative go no matter what the numbers say.

lets keep letting these folks dictate national policy...i mean just cause they are arong all thge time...err, i mean the data changes...they are our best and brightest!

Well, remember McCain was heroic and courageous for his famous “ thumbs down” vote on ACA, but Manchin is being obstructionist

And there it is. No matter a 99.99 survival rate in kids under 5, we have jabs to sell!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10313227/Johnson-Johnson-vaccine-dubious-against-Omicron-lab-study-finds.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline&ito=social-twitter_mailonline Take your shots people, there are LTIPs in play here! (Long Term Incentive Plans)

Yes, they should change the protocols if they indeed care about spread, and it’s a simple change. Everyone, regardless of vax status, takes a rapid antigen test everyday in addition to a PCR test weekly.

yep, and its weird as the NFLs head doc was leading edge last year on Covid. Was obvious in early September the vaccines were not preventing spread, yet they kept up the charade about different protocols for vax vs unvaxed . Damn, we need Beasley back on social media stat...all those Bills fans crushing him for being all over this early now need to take a walk of shame.

Section 135, Row 22. Seats 21-24. Aisle seats on about the 25. Best Offer.

So, 100% vaccinated Cornell is shutting down with a massive Covid outbreak. Uhmmm, tell me again how Covid vaccines stop the spread?

k, dont answer the question again...why i stay off of here...dolts like you.

The math you used assumed same rate of Covid infection in both vax and unvaxxed. Do you agree with that or should you adjust the math with the 4.6X the CDC uses as protection against contracting Covid? That where your math is off. My contention has been since about September the vaccine does not stop people from getting or transmitting Covid. Is it a therapeutic? Yes...i have never argued that. Should we be basing all our public health decisions on the fact we call it a vaccine when it is clearly not working as intended in terms of the spread of Covid ?

Again, with the non answers. Your math assumes the vaccine provides zero protection against actually getting Covid and vaxed and unvaxed contract at same rate. Is that your contention?

So, you are saying Vax people GET Covid at same rate as unvaxed?

Key point in here 72% fully vaxed... CDC says unvaxed 4X more likely to get Delta, and at LEAST 6X more likely to be hospitalized. Those numbers do not add up to 40% of people in hospital fully vaxed..the math just does not freaking work. Does it appear vax is working to keep people out of hospital..yes, marginally. Is this a pandemic of the unvaccinated? Hell no. Its a pandemic of the yet to be infected. And yet, we have people like @Sundancer who refuse to acknowledge these real world numbers and prefer studies by Pfizer and Moderna. No one on the vax is a religious choice team wants to consider the fact that Covid rates went way down last year in the spring as well, as flu and every other respiratory illness does. Is it not possible it was due to seasonality, not the result of the vax.?We are not supposed to mention numbers did same thing in 2020 without a vax? Really? Shocking, rates going up again now in the winter...team religion vax says its because efficacy wanes, get a booster...maybe its because the vax's don't work as advertised and its simply flu/respiratory illness season. But then, all the money from Vax and vax candidate funding might go away.

even this guy is questioning the reliance of studies done by ..ya know..the vaccine manufacturers as our relied upon data source

just get your shots, and keep getting them, it’s our only way out! hmm, The Lancet Study appears not to agree. @Sundancer ya happy I used a study now instead of real numbers. Although the CDC numbers are real world numbers. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08#

New variant coming we know nothing about, Vaccine makers , political appointees funded by said vax makers, and @Sundancer and @ALF say take another shot! Oh, whats that you say? 90% of the positive cases on this plane are fully vaxed? Whats that, 100% of the Omicrom cases were fully vaxed. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-covid-19-quarantine-ends-most-safrica-passengers-authorities-2021-12-02/ Whats that, cases in NY are up 75% since November 1st? Take another shot. Their only answer every time...take another shot.

Tents may be out the question if winds are as predicted.