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Perhaps not....but I'd bet they become better than the stiffs that we've gotten to enjoy for the past 7-8 years.

Not quite. Randy Moss had two amazing years before Culpepper started throwing balloons his way. And he had two chumps throwing to him then too. 1998 69 1313 19.0 17 (Randall Cunningham) 1999 80 1413 17.7 11 (Jeff Fvcking George) Moss made the QB, not the other way around. Eric Moulds thought he had it bad. Moss has never once had a QB worth a sht....hell he's barely had a mediocre one.

Oh absolutely this could be the end of Green's career and/or effectiveness. But I wholeheartedly believe that there is no QB on the Dolphins roster worth a sht. At the very least, Miami's interest in Green shows me that they are serious about upgrading the position. Albeit, Culpepper was a similar move.

I can see the argument that he may never be the same after the injury or that he is too old, but to deny what Green has accomplished since he has been a starter is silly. Before his injury he was the only QB to have thrown for 4000+ in each of the past three seasons. He's not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but he was playing like one of the top 10 QBs in the game. At best, he will most likely give Miami 1-2 productive seasons. If the compensation is a late round pick, then I fail to see how this is phenomenal news. The only possible way this could benefit the Bills is by having Miami potentially waste a second day draft pick. That's phenomenal? I'm not saying I'm quivering in my shoes over this, but the Dolphins could do a lot worse then Trent Green.

I don't think it solidifies anything for them. It will make Brady Quinn a likely target, but there is no guarantee he makes it past #3. What it means for us is that the glorious run of castoffs and scrubs that the Dolphins have comically tried to replace Dan Marino with may finally be coming to an end.

Trent Green, while most likely at the end of the line, has proved himself to be in the upper tier of NFL starting QBs for the past 5 years. Duante Culpepper, in addition to being injured, has proved to be completely clueless if he isn't throwing to the most talented WR in football. This move most likely won't help Miami enough, but it is an immediate upgrade and gives them potentially the best starting QB they've had since Marino retired.

That sounds sick....I might have to buy a xbox or something and get back into these games.

I think Linkin Park is awesome. Their songs generally sound the same, but its a sweet sound. Loved the Hova collaboration...can't wait for the new album.

It's never easy....very sorry, Mike.

Whitner may never develop into an all-pro safety, but your willingness to write off the possibility (and therefore use it as justification for the bad pick argument) is interesting considering you seem to be giving the benefit of the doubt to two LBs who didn't do anything their rookie year. Greenway was on IR the whole season and Booby Carpenter didn't record a tackle until Week 9. By that time Donte Whitner had about 50 tackles, a pick, some great pass breakups and an NFL Rookie of the Month award under his belt. Yet somehow his future is bleak and Carpenter could step in for Spikes? And arguing that Whitner would have been available at 15 is like arguing that Doug Flutie would have been the Titans. Plausible theory, but no possible way to prove. Yet the tenacity and self-assuredness I've seen people argue both scenarios is impressive. But in the end, what's the point? We have what he have and being pissed about it is an exercise in futility.

I'm thinking about taking a trip to Argentina sometime....you wanna take credit for that too?

P-Train....you just got another huge fan. I had seen clips of him before, but chasing down Darren McFadden (1:31) just sealed the deal. What incredible closing speed. Sign him up!

No doubt.

I think people are counting Thanksgiving. Can't thank the NFL enough for gracing us with the Cowboys and Lions every 4th Thursday in November every year. Quality football. Nov. 22, NY Jets (CBS) 3:15 pm

Nice...

Good thing Dave & Busters opened up shop...

Mike Nifong is a nappy-headed ho.

No I wasn't really arguing...just positing. I assumed that it would be brought up by the prosecution, but not taken into account very much. I would think/hope that a jury member would not use a pre-guilt disciplinary action by a private entity as proof of true guilt. To me, that would be like a jury member of the Duke LAX rape scandal (if it had gone to trial) using the school's decision to suspend them from the LAX team as proof that they did in fact rape the girl. Kind of circular reasoning. I agree with you about Goodell...excellent, strong move. Way past time...

OK, fair enough. But are you saying that this has universal application then? Anytime a person who is charged with a crime is disciplined by his employer as a result, his lawyer needs to get that excluded?

I see where you are coming from, but I would disagree. If last night you were arrested on for DUI but you planned to fight the charge, I don't think your employer firing you (or suspending you) today would affect a jury's decision come trial time.

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ND players are pussies. The only dude I ever heard about being an absolute animal was Julius Jones. I heard stories about him going out on friday nights before gameday....dude got kicked out of like 4 dorms for breaking all kinds of rules. Finally got his head together his senior year after taking time off and I never saw him out much then. The football players would never get wrecked for the most part. They would order some lame drink (I used to buy my boy Amaretto Sours all the time... ) and just stand around and wait for the girls to start getting sloppy and then clean up. I like your Everett assessment though...definitely has the trifecta down.

#21 because I know the only position I could play in the NFL is punt-catcher.

I don't about throwing them back, but I bet your boy Jim Leonhard burns down more than his share. Dude looks like he just blazed before his team photo... Lit up