Adam

Football apparently is pretty high on that priority list........... And the dick comment confirms the lack of maturity on your part

Sad thing is, we really don't know what category to put those QB's in- nor do we know what Kelly had left when that terrible line ended his career. If the line isn't good enough, nothing will be good enough.....I think Kelly had 2-3 good years left, but didn't want to finish his career elsewhere

Since there are so many whiny threads of people crying, bellyaching and acting like spoiled children, I figured I would start an actual football thread. QB's: B- I wasn't too happy when JP Losman was benched last season and I think he will be a successful backup elsewhere in the league- too much talent not to, and to those who compare him to Rob Johnson, RJ never led any fourth quarter comebacks that I can remember. I am pleased with Edwards' development to this point- some may not be, but I like infuriating the instant gratification crowd by telling them that they know nothing. Edwards has a better pocket presence than JP and although his progressions need to be a bit quicker and crisper in the future, I didn't expect him to come this far in 2 seasons. RB's: B+ Without a doubt the strength of the team- Lynch's speed is underrated and Jackson's power is as well. This unit has carried the offense. Blitz pickup is much better than a year ago, but there is still room for improvement. I think Omon has the potential to develop into a good short yardage back. We still don't have a fullback. WR's: C Not a lot of production, but plenty of potential. I see Lee Evans as a lower tier #1 WR or a very good #2. His speed is countered by a lack of a presence on the other side of the field. Only people that don't know much are calling Hardy a bust- he was a rookie and still has plenty of upside with that big frame. Steve Johnson had a very good rookie season as did TE Derek Fine. Where would we bee without Josh Reed- I call him our offensive MVP, he is really Mr. Clutch. Parrish is capable of a nice play now and then but is one of the more dynamic punt returners in the league. OL: C- Our line is just good enough to lose. That said- we will put yardage up, but when it comes to getting it done in the red area we are still lacking- and no, I didn't look at the numbers. Our interior line needs a lot of work- our centers aren't worth mentioning and our guards don't live up to their reputation. Dockery is a 50% blocker IMHO- he will make the block half the time. Butler is a pretty solid pass blocker but gets little push. Walker is supersized- his may have been our best lineman for most of the year- but what does that mean? Being the best lineman on a terrible line doesn't make you good. He is soft and can't explode out of his stance, giving the defender free run. Peters holdout caused him to regress terribly. The unit didn't generate running or passing lanes nearly enough. DL:D+ It turned out that upgrading from Tripplet to Johnson and adding Marcus Stroud didn't magically transform this unit into the fearsome foursome. McCargo was expected to make an impact after making a good impression last year, but saw his season (and trade) short circuited by injury. Aaron Schobel is the only DE we have that doesn't look like a special teamer to me and he in not a dominating force, either. LB: C- This unit was hurt by the absence of Crowell. Pozlusny made a bunch of tackles, but seemed to play tentatively after coming back from a season ending injury. I really think he played at a higher level last season. Mitchell isn't Bryce Paup- which is what fans will be measuring all free agent linebackers coming to the team by. He is a smart defender than can rush the passer, play the run and drop into coverage. The rest look like special teamers to me. DB's: B- By far the best unit on the defense. McGee bounced back from a subpar year and Greer was solid in coverage. McKelvin started to come on late in the season. Whitner probably should have been put on IR after his initial injury- as was displayed Sunday. Ko Simpson really, really struggled and probably has given way to Scott. Specials: B+ With a few exceptions, Lindell and Moorman have proven to be elite players. Parrish and McKelvin played well for us. Coverage was solid. My Prognosis: We really have to rebuild the lines- Aside from Peters and Stroud, th e only lineman I even want to see back is Schobel. I wouldn't mind picking one running back as our guy and trading the other. Haynesworth and Saturday are out there, Oher, Jerry, Mack, Hardy, Orokpo, and Selvie are there in the draft. I see no option other than rebuildng both lines and seeing how the rest of the team plays with better OL's and DL's.

He plays like an Animal

He coached some really flawed teams and beat some very good teams- look at his QB's- Dave Kreig, Steve DeBerg, Rich Gannon, Elvis Grbac and a mummified Joe Montana. He had to see John Elway twice a season for most of his career and had some one-dimensional running backs. His playoff record reflects the fact that his teams weren't all that great, but he made it to the playoffs by emphasizing strengths. Marty Schotenheimer is a hall of fame coach and from what I understand is a hell of a guy.....which usually is the case for great coaches

I'd prefer Jerry Jones- who wanting to see the Hershel Walker deal from Minnesota's perspective, traded for Roy Williams I prefer the term marionette.

The problem is, they keep funding businesses who are losing money without setting conditions beforehand- not that it would help. Trickle down actually works, despite what some die hard liberals claim- the problem is that it works mainly when an economy is strong and there is plenty of demand. During conditions like we have now, you can give the businesses all the money you want- they won't use it appropriately because there is no demand for their products- which is why gas continues to go down. To get the economy back on track, you give money back to the middle class- the stimulus packages should be a start- and shifting the lower taxes to the middle class from where they are now will be a more long term solution. That will stimulate demand. Once demand is stimulated, you can focus more on the supply end. Once we declare victory in the middle east (which we achieved quite some time ago) and pull out of that money pit, we can stop funneling billions of dollars into someone else's economy and put it back where it belongs. Maybe then we can focus on catching up our educational system to almost every country in the world.

All of this stupid QB talk.....put Todd Collins back there for all I care (which is what Bills fans deserve anyways). Put down your fantasy football notepads and watch the line play- you might (gasp) learn something about the sport. We have neglected the line since Polian was fired and we are where we are because of that and because of letting our free agent go- which was eloquently described ina previous post.

Dude- he just finished his first full season. I see a vast improvement in his deep throws from his first season Actually, JP will be the backup in Denver- so I guess you could call him the winner of the battle

Yes- football is all important- he should have been whisked away and brought to the stadium henceforth! Don't you know that some people actually think this way, because they have no lives!

The mistake was bringing in a washed up Brett Favre and releasing Chad Pennington

When Peters is on, he can handle most pass rushers one on one. His season got screwed up when he foolishly listened to his agent. He is the one OL we have that is worth anything.

They have a real NFL offensive line....and we matched up against it with Marcus Stroud......I'm just sayin......

OK, the other option is to just let the economy die. Things aren't that black and white

And they've already penciled us in as a win next season as well

Actually- I think the Lions brought Marinelli down, not the other way around. Its a shame for them, as they may finally be in a position to turn things around. I think they pulled off a Hershel Walker type deal- ironically with Dallas. That Roy Williams trade was insanity. Firing Mangini was sheer stupidity by the Jets. I am fine with the Crennel firing, but not Savage- Savage has put together a very talented team. I wouldn't mind if the Bills picked up Savage

I also doubt we will see them play another playoff down

Colin- I strongly disagree- we need a minimum of four more defensive linemen, not just one. Our WR's corps isn't strong now, but Hardy, Johnson and Fine all need time- we need 3-4 new starting OL's to go along with Peters.

The jury is out on Whitner and Pozluzny- I cut them slack. After all, I could beat out Kevin Williams, Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. You have to have guys in front of you to make plays. Stroud must get lonely being the only guy up front. We could cut every offensive lineman other than Peters for all I care,

The jury is out on Whitner and Pozluzny- I cut them slack. After all, I could beat out Kevin Williams, Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. You have to have guys in front of you to make plays. Stroud must get lonely being the only guy up front. We could cut every offensive lineman other than Peters for all I care,

I wouldn't mind packaging our 2nd round pick with Fred Jackson for a 1st and third- maybe a 4th too. I think he can be a starter somewhere and I think Omon will develop into something. We need help at every line position except OLT. Look at how the rest of the division has built their team- they don't get caught up in all this fluffy garbage

Jauron> Buffalo.......or has the village of Buffalo closed down already? Maybe the Bills can relocate to the Hamlet of Ebeneezer

I am going to start extrapolating before things get too out of hand

maybe they'll win after moving to san antonio

look at how consistently inconsistent our offense has been. or is it inconsistently consistant?