Kipers Hair
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Does anyone really buy into this whole good Karma, positive thought thing? When it comes to your personal life, I get it as we do have bearing on that. But why the whole "you need to be positive" spin with the Bills? My outlook will have no impact on what this team does. If we all hold hands while spanning America, singing Kumbaya and having positive "Bills" thoughts, will Losman be able to read a defense and lead men? Will Josh Reed stop sucking? Will our O-Line become competent?
Get off it - if I want to be a disgruntled fan...so be it. Fire Donohoe now!!!!
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Finally - it's a hard truth, but inevitable...TD must go to start this in the right direction...
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Amen - bunch of freaking sissys on this site. They won, we lost...get over it.
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As much as New England has dropped off...we are a worse team. Last night, we lined our best against theirs and were simply beaten. Good game plan? Nice effort? Another loss by a bad team in a bad organization.
I know we all got a chubby when TD inked McGee, but that like tossing a deck chair from the Titanic and saying you've lost some weight. When the real prized assets of this organization come time for renewal, (McGahee, Evens, Schoebel), say good-bye. We are back to the Bills organization of the late 70's and early 80's - simply one good players will not want to play for.
As fans, we know the Ralph is a great stage, but like the denuzens of WNY knowing it's a nice place to live, desirable players will not come to play for a loser.
In a nut-shell, this organization is weighed down by the leadership - all the way to the top. That said, TD's job is getting the fans to go to games and watch on TV. Given the bland team the Bills are fielding every week, he is doing a remarkable job og building excitement.
The only way to bring about the revolutionary change is to stop supporting the team. One of two things will happen - they will get better or they will leave. If they are going to be a bad team, let'em leave.
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ON the Mike and Mike show this morning, they were going what is hashed on this site almost daily - is it better to go 8-8 and win some meaningless games, or 2-14 and better your team for the long term. It was a split - but a lot of the same things thrown out by both sides here. (For what it's worth, i am on the let's stack the deck and get a shot at an all-pro).
Anyway - I am posting this as Mike Golic has already counted the BIlls out of the hunt as a playoff team - Even though they are a mere 1/2 game out of first. He thinks they just don;t have it...as many here think. That said - he's obviously a football guy with a knowledge of what it takes to play in this league - what do you guys think?
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Hold on there crap thrower. Barring injury to players, the collage season has little to do with where a player gets drafted...Does this mean we can and should only draft from teams that are in a Major Bowl Game? The players listed will probably be all first round players.
As for the NFL - I think we all have a good grasp on just how good the Bills are...Top 5 pick is a real possibility...
I think the thing the dragon is missing is that TD will probably unvail his genius, drop down, take D'Angelo Williams, (wont pay for McGahee), and get another 3rd rounder who we'll turn into the next Coy Wire...
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Yes - that is what I was trying to say...I think Buffalo is a different breed of cat. from that perspective - the area needs the team to maintain it's population. If they left, people would indeed leave, (at least I think so). That said, people stay in the area when they might otherwise leave and better themselves financially...because of this team, (which i think goes against most economic models...).
So no sabotage - perhaps poorly conveyed on my part...but my point is that you cannot make the economic argument for NFL franchises - even the normal things a franchise brings to an area don't float in Buffalo. When the Colts left indy...I don't think think anyone moved away from Baltimore.
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It is what it is. Despite the growth of Columbus and Huntsville, not many Americans think of those cities as large and successful. Cleveland and Cincinnati are both smaller than Columbus, but I'll bet if you asked most folks to name a city in Ohio, Columbus would not be the response much of the time.
We do have other players on the Buffalo stage. JoAnn Falletta has landed the Philharmonic its first legitimate recording contract in a long time, and the University brings in a big name or two each year (look out for the Dalai Lama in 2006; that's large-scale). But are those "brand-makers?" No. Neither is an oversized retail store or a casino. (Is there a city left in America without a casino within suburb range?) NFL football, though, gives a city instant recognition.
As far as the other city you mentioned--San Antonio--why else are they fighting so hard for the Saints? Are all those blue-and-silver-wearing Texans all of the sudden diehard Saints fans? Nope. It's about the recognition.
I'll play along...
I believe that the NFL franchise is only recognition to an NFL fan, (casual or "Bills" type). To an economist or Business type, the cities of interest are those with a vibrant economy or the ability to launch into economic viability...that would put fargo ahead of Buffalo for the purposes of this angle.
Look - I love pro-football, but not for the sake of what it does for the area at all. I love the sport and everything that it takes to be a winning franchise. If Tuscaloosa FL had a Superbowl team - I would go to a game. If tuskaloosa had a job there that was attractive to me...I would move there. I don;t consider economics and NFL teams in the same playing field. Example, i moved to Dallas, (then left), for a career opportunity...The Cowboys being there meant squat. I was more attracted to seeing the UT/Oklahoma game once a year.
Bills fans are a rare breed - if I were the academic type, I think it would be an interesting paper on WNY - how the fan base is so emotionally tied to the team. I would hazard a guess - IF this team were to ever pull up stakes and leave - I think a lot of people would leave the area as this team is keeping people there...and in many cases, presenting them from haveing a more economically "better" life...
just my take on this topic...Now back to the Dragon....
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1) Are you trying to cause a ruckus with your threads or what? First "who is better, willis or thurman" and now this?
2) Until about 3 years ago, RW was ranked in the top 10 worldwide for tennis players over 80 years old (or something along those lines). I know that's not saying much, but yes old ralph is doing just fine.
Nope - just asking the quesitons that others mght be afraid to broach. On the Thurman front - there is no way in Hell that Willis is in the same league...yet. But, i did not want to forward my opion to see what others are feeling. TT is a Hall of Famer...Willis is still a gangsta' feeling thinks out.
As for Ralph - I just don;t get him letting TD run roughshod on the organization. This is the same guy that ran the "architect" of the great Bills team. He has too much moxy to let TD have his way...unless of course (a) he is senile / suffering from AZ or (b) he just wants to package for a sale. Either way, it's not a good thing.
All said - not starting fires, just posting quesitons to see what other think/feel...
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What do the Bills do for me Personally?
I'm sure many of you can echo this sentiment. The Bills bring people together. Even during my irresponsible youth, Sunday was a day that my Father and I came together. From his stories of listening to the Bills of the AFL on the radio or telling me about the likes of Gilchrist, Kemp and Sestak, the team was a lynchpin in an often contentious relationship.
There was one time in particular. I had gotten arrested. I was nineteen or twenty. My father picked me up from the holding center in a furious rage on a Sunday morning. I sat in silence while he yelled. I think he screamed all the way until the one o'clock kickoff against Houston. We still watched the game together though. At first it was in a conspicous silence peppered with disparaging comments about Todd Collins. By the end of the game, we had both come to the realization that this too would pass. (Both my issues and the Todd Collins era.)
On a community level...
The Bills are the one thread that runs through most Buffalonians. They are a common denominator. We've cheered together and hung our heads in despair together. You can be anywhere in the world, meet someone from Buffalo and instantly know that he or she experienced the same crushing feeling when the Titans completed that illegal forward pass. You can look at that person and know that they understand what it's like to be part of something special, like a miracle comeback by a backup quarterback or the tearing down of goalposts after years of futility.
It's sad that Red Dragon doesn't get it, because almost everyone else does.
Alright...sniffle...this is a compelling argument you pose...
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This Ralph is senile bs is ridiculous. He's fine. Just because he walks a little slower & talks a little slower, some of you people assume that he's got mental problems. You people must be about 15 years old with no contact with people in their 80s. There are pleny of octogenarians who are in control of all their mental faculties. In fact 99.9% are smarter than the dumb@sses who question Ralph's sanity.
For the record, the old Ralph was a cheapskate who didn't give a rats @ss about the W-L record until the stands were empty. Then he would spend saome money to bring the fans back. The team was so bad for so long that we got some players like Bruce Smith with the 1st overall pick. Through luck, the team drafted Jim Kelly and due to dumb luck Ralph fell into hiring Polian, who hired a crony-Marv Levy and made some very astute draft picks before Ralph told him to get out of town. The difference was mostly over money(a Ralph Wilson returning to his cheapskate thing) between one of Ralph's bean counters in Detroit & Polian.
So 1)Ralph is fine mentally 2) Ralph is actually acting like the younger Ralph-the w-l record only matters when the fans stop going to games.
Thanks for the history lesson. I am neither 8, nore foolish enough to not respect that with age comes wisdom. That said, the wisdom on display these days is questionable.
Going back to my initial email - Ron was rightfully questioned about his condition. Are you saying Ralph is abve this? He's an aging human that will breakdown. If you don't want to face that, place him in the cryogenic freeze before it's too late...
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I remember that study. It correctly stated that the game-day impact on the region's economy isn't that high. Eight weekends year, we get travelling fans in our hotels and restaurants, and sixteen Sundays per year, our bars and pizza delivery joints are busier than on other Sundays. That is a nice contribution, but not huge.
But what I remember the study lacked is any evaluation of the team's impact on city recognition. What else is putting Buffalo "on the map" right now? There is an economic impact that is more important--and less tangible--than what goes into local coffers on a few weekends. The perceived increase in quality-of-life is important, too.
This is an interesting angle. If the team is the only thing putting buffalo on the Map, that's sad. growing economies in Huntsville AL, Columbas OH, San Antonio, etc., do not need a pro team to get on the map. Economics is the vehicle for this city to grow - the pro team is a nice to have. I'll bet it could be argued that the Bass Pro Shops or even a Casino would do more for the denizens of WNY that the Bills....
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Dragon - I knew you would feel the hate...but such volumes for a first time poster...Nicely done. though you lose points for the topic...of course you'll get run. Some of the topics I attacked...and survived to see things are turning my way:
- Donohoe must go. My heart swells with today's postings
- Parrish was a wasted pick
- We should have recruited Weiss
- JP was a reach
- Pat Williams needs to stay
The list goes on, but don't swing on your positions...You can be an epic visionary to the cattle...
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Put Modrak as GM and Gray on an interim basis until you can coax Weiss back to the Pro's...
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Time For a coup d' etat ! Line the usual suspects against the wall and shoot them down!
Ralph - Dead!
Donahoe - Dead!
Mularkey - Dead!
Scouting Staff - Dead!
And what will this prove? Nothing. Just as long as all you suckers proceed like sheep to the stadium each week, nothing will ever change. Why should they, since their treasury is filled each week. What's that you say? If we don't support the team, they will leave. Well let me ask you this-other than providing you with some vicarious thrills and some sort of sense that Buffalo is in the "big leagues", what do the Bills do for you personally? Nothing. They don't care about you or the community. Stop supporting this team and let them take their crooked side show to a different city
Red Dragon - you are obviously a visionary that this site needs in this most desparate of times. Like cattle to the slaughter, we feel compelled to march into the stadium or bar to root for the Bills fueling some desparate hunger for belonging and perhaps community. While societies around the globe feed this need through religion or social interaction, we don the red, white and blue war colors and cheer on this army to feel something more.
Opinions such as yours are always not met with the same acceptance as I show, so I would warn you to keep your guard up...but stay the course, in the end, your vision will be served.
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You think? Wait, there might be a gem of FB or WR who we never thought would be there...After we take this stud, we'll move our future #1 pick to draft a high motor white guy from the Mountain West in the early 2nd...
Until TD leaves, or has the onions to hire a headcoach with the moxy to tell him he's wrong, we're stuck with this lemon....
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Floowed closely by TD spinning it and EVERYONE buying into his BS. It was another arrogant call the fits only his selfserving egomaniacle mindset. If the bastard had any heard, he would resign today.
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Harkening back to the old Ralph where he dealt with problems in a swift manner...I can't understand why he's languishing and letting TD run roughshod over the organization. I recall when the great Ronald Reagan started to lose his game, peple knew somehting was up. I am startiung to think we have the same problem on our hands.
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Its time for Tom Donahue to be shown the door folks. Sure business wise he has helped the team, and yes, he injected some enthusiasm back into the Bills when they were at their lowest point in 2001, but it is clear as DAY that his philosophies on building a winner are not going to work here. Period.
This is a team that cannot come up with big plays in games on the road against a team that is decent or better OVER AND OVER again!! That is not just coincidence in my eyes. And it goes beyond even the players on the field and the coaching staff. You have to start with the GM in this case.
He hires coaches that he is able to control. His personnel decisions are questionable, the way to win the NFL is to start on the offensive and defensive lines and work your way out from there. Sure he made some real good moves (TKO, Sam Adams etc). But winning teams start in the trenches. How come he cannot realize this by now?
Skimp on the OL and try to bring in retreads and build a dominant OL. Sure that will work, so many teams do that right?
Where have all of you people been? I know good people run from this site for declaring this same point two Augusts ago? Now all of the suddon, hey, this guy needs to go? His same genious was on display last year, the year before, etc.. He's been dogin a great spin control since he arrived. In the end, the person that needs to wake up is Ralph....
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Name one quality win the Bills have had over a good team in addition to the Patriots home opener two years ago? I can't recall a nice win in addition to that one...We can only seem to beat bad team...
How long are we going to stick with TD and wait for him to catch lightning in a bottle?
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Are you F-ing kidding me? After what you saw yesterday? Next week is the beating of a lifetime...not the season.
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While watching that beating yesterday, I lept thinking about someone's great post on this site after the Houston game that Jerry Grey was as good as gone next year, and that Krumrie should be the "D" coordinator. Half right - Gray should be gone next year...but so should Krumrie....
Stop Whining on Bruschi and the refs
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Actually, maybe a name change would be in order...but I'd hate to lose all of the love I feel from the rose colored glasses wearing sheep blinding following TD on this board. You seem to be in a PMS'ing little b-tch of a mood today. Are you upset you stayed up past your bedtime to watch your beloved's get bent over a table?
It's people like me that inact the changes needed....Not blind sheet that wear their colors proudly without demanding better. Now get your pom-poms out and start dissecting the Chiefs for week after next. perhaps you can figure out how to prevent them from rushing for 300 yards against this pathetic defense. Don't forget - cheer really loud and think "they'll win...they'll win...I know they will...". Sheep.