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Luck has been turned into something he is not. He is a better prospect than Mallet or Newton but not by a significant enough degree to pull a Ricky Williams. Nick Fairely or Marcell Dareaus will be a great edition to the Bills and will lead to more wins in the short team over a young QB.

Jax is basically a final and lost. Indy is a final and won. That leaves the SOS at Buffalo 148 108, and Cinci 148 107. If the SOS is tied (Denver pulls out a win) Cinci has the next two tie breaker and picks after the Bills. If the Chargers win it puts Cinci at 149 107. Maybe Tim Tebow can pull off a miracle and give the Bills the #2, but its unlikely.

#3 Pick is locked

It doesn't matter the Bills will be picking before Cinci, With the Jax Loss and the Chargers win the Bills get the #3 pick no matter what happens with the Colts.

I doubt that has ever happened in NFL history. Going perfect in division and missing the playoffs.

If Indy Denver and Texans win we get the #2 If Indy San Diego, and Texans win we get the #3 Actually if just the Texans and Chargers win, we still get the #3. If Indy loses in that situation the SOS will be tied then it will come down to conference and division records which the Bengals have better in both categories so it looks like the Bills will have the #3 pick. #1 Luck, #2 Fairely, #3 Dareus, or #1 Luck #2 Dareus, #3 Fairely. Either way the Bills are set with an impact player.

We played GB and Chicago so that is a wash for SOS. GB\Chi game is irrelevant. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/125363-2-pick/

Right, which is what I wrote. The Jags play the Texans. We need the Jags to lose.

No we wouldn't. Coin flip comes after the conference and division records. Bengals would win\lose if our SOS is tied, meaning they would pick after the Bills in that case.

You are correct. Wishful thinking.

If The Broncos beat the Chargers. The Jags loose Colts Win We Get the #2 Seed If The Chargers Win and Colts win we get the #3 Seed. Draft Seeding Tie Breaker is SOS, Conference then Division record are the next tie breakers and the Bengals beat us in both. The Bills SOS without the the Jags game 148 107 The Bengals SOS without the Chargers and Colts 147 107

Levi Brown time

Wait until you see Fairely on the 8th.

No Head to Head isn't used in determining draft picks. SOS is first tie breaker.

BTW The Current Strength of Schedule is Buffalo 140-100, and Cinci 139-101. So if you add the division games in for this week, counting a loss for Cinci and Buffalo its 148-106, 147-107. If somehow Cinci pulls out a win obviously this all moot and Buffalo moves up anyway.

If We Lose and: Denver beats San Diego (Which is very likely) we move up to #3 and If Indianapolis wins + Oakland beats KC and Houston beats Jacksonville I think we move up to #2 Because Cinci would then have the hardest Strength of Schedule. Because Week 17 is all division games, its going to add 7 wins and 7 loses to everyone's Strength of Schedule. The Games that Matter for the Strength of Schedule are OAK @ KC, JAC @ HOU for us, so we Want KC and JAC to lose; and SD @ Denver and Ten @ Ind for Cinci's strength of schedule. San Diego and Indianapolis was Cinci's variable scheduled games. Even if Denver loses we can still move up to #3 because Cinci and Buffalo are neck and neck for Strength of Schedule and that would mean San Diego won and made Cinci's Stregth of schedule harder. So I think when all is said and done after we lose to the Jets we will have the #2 or #3 pick worst case #4.

Anyone have a link to the game?

Exactly.

Agree about Love. I'm interested to see San Jose's assessment. Jeremy Beal was able to beat him a few times but Carimi definitely won the battle over Beal in the long run. Carimi definitely did not look like an all world top 10 LT. More like a better than average college LT. Moffit stood out more to me than Carimi. I kept wanting Carimi to look studly but kept noticing #74 just erasing who ever was near him.

What? 2.5 mil is "throwing money." That's funny. The part where papazoid speculates that deal is for much more than, 2.5 mil. Thats pure pessimistic speculation. Again what is the risk?

#1 is just pure pessimistic speculation. You didn't mention what the risk is.

Anyone know how to score some designer HGH? Anyone know where Merriman lives?

You're wrong about setting the rebuilding process back a year and that is an absolute.

Wrong Wrong With a Bills Loss and a Tim Tebow win the Bills can get the #2 With a Bills win, best/worst case is 8 With the 2 QBs, 2 CBs, and Quinn. One of them will be there at 8. No need to "worry" about a Bills win.

Yeah I really like him. This isn't the first game Upshaw has dominated. He has a late first round or early second grade for the 2012 draft. Nick Saban has been outspoken in his commonts to his Junior players (Dareus, Upshaw, Hightower, Julio Jones, Mark Ingram etc . . .) to stay for a National Championship run instead of being drafted into a labor dispute. No one knows how successful Saban will be at recruiting them to stay, but if you look at that class Saban is a pretty persuasive dude.