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But is that true? Top 8 teams for Turnover ratio in 2011: (almost All Playoff teams ) 1 San Francisco 49ers 16 23.8 380 993 310.9 5.0 17.6 65 221 29 9 14 64 113 1,014 32:08 14 5 +28 2 Green Bay Packers 16 35 560 988 405.1 6.6 22.1 91 189 48 4 8 50 76 591 30:29 15 6 +24 3 New England Patriots 16 32.1 513 1,082 428.0 6.3 24.9 89 194 46 7 11 64 87 815 28:47 13 5 +17 4 Detroit Lions 16 29.6 474 1,058 396.1 6.0 21.8 76 212 36 8 14 57 128 1,075 30:09 20 7 +11 5 Seattle Seahawks 16 20.1 321 1,003 303.8 4.8 16.6 77 228 34 7 15 47 138 1,047 28:23 22 9 +8 6 Atlanta Falcons 16 25.1 402 1,073 376.6 5.6 21.8 99 224 44 4 13 31 93 769 32:18 12 8 +8 7 Houston Texans 16 23.8 381 1,046 372.1 5.7 20.1 93 224 42 3 11 27 99 852 32:40 20 11 +7 8 New York Giants 16 24.6 394 1,028 385.1 6.0 20.7 77 206 37 4 13 31 94 795 29:30 18 8 +7 Top 8 Defenses by points allowed 2011: (only 4 playoff teams) 25Tennessee Titans1619.83171,080355.15.320.29623641820409981232:112012 26Seattle Seahawks1619.73151,049332.25.119.47722135711649690732:11189 27Miami Dolphins1619.63131,043345.15.319.474219347145011297529:51173 28Cleveland Browns1619.23071,035332.45.118.89523041614439072631:002011 29Houston Texans1617.4278960285.74.816.97621236613468868627:201810 30Baltimore Ravens1616.62661,002288.94.616.871221321021481031,03229:252711 31San Francisco 49ers1614.3229974308.25.116.77621635717419886728:033115 32Pittsburgh Steelers1614.2227964271.84.516.58622139813629677727:27134 Turnovers Kill It is not ok. Try reading the post. Did I say equally? The irony in your delusional comment is so massive it may start to generate a gravitational force of its own and eventually suck us all into a blackhole.

Doesn't matter what Bellicheat does on Defense. The Pats O-line is weaksauce in 2012. Bruce & Biscuitt would be all up in Brady's mush all game long. Gronk % Welker would still have a lot of catches but back them we had people that could tackle.

Because, using basic logic Fitz shares the blame by throwing an inopportune INT on a horrible decision at that point in time. Fitz is to blame for the loss. The Defense is also to blame for the loss. This thread is beyond retarded. Both can share the blame it is not one or the other it can be both, and in reality both are to blame. Any other team in the league that has a QB throw a 4th QTR interception there is no debate. Any other team in the league that has a QB throw for a little over 200 yards where 60% of that is YAC there is no debate. For some strange reason people feel they have to protect their investment in this obviously non-NFL quality QB. Its mind-numbing to read these preposterous excuses for poor QB play.

There is enough blame to go around and Fitzy gets his share. Of his 200 yards passing the ball traveled from his hand to his receiver's hand 30 yards tops. He is not a starting caliber QB and has proved this time and time again. The Int was a horrific read and throw. Yes the defense is on track to be the worst defense in NFL history by allowing the most points per game AND Fitzy is still a loser.

Are you referring to this drive When the Bills were up and in the Cards Territory with 3 mins left? Buffalo Bills at 5:54 BUF ARI DRIVE TOTALS: BUF 16, ARI 13, 5 plays, 38 yards, 2:47 elapsed 1st and 10 at BUF 41 R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short left to St.Johnson. 2nd and 10 at BUF 41 (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short left to F.Jackson pushed ob at ARZ 47 for 12 yards (P.Lenon). ARZ-K.Rhodes was injured during the play. His return is Questionable. 1st and 10 at ARI 47 F.Jackson up the middle to ARZ 40 for 7 yards (P.Lenon). 2nd and 3 at ARI 40 F.Jackson right tackle to ARZ 37 for 3 yards (D.Washington). 1st and 10 at ARI 37 F.Jackson up the middle to ARZ 36 for 1 yard (D.Dockett). 2nd and 9 at ARI 36 Direct snap to B.Smith. B.Smith pass deep middle intended for D.Jones INTERCEPTED by P.Peterson at ARZ 0. P.Peterson to ARZ 15 for 15 yards (E.Pears). Or this Drive after the game was tied? Buffalo Bills at 1:09 BUF ARI DRIVE TOTALS: BUF 16, ARI 16, 3 plays, 3 yards, 0:12 elapsed 1st and 10 at BUF 20 (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick sacked at BUF 14 for -6 yards (O.Schofield). Timeout #1 by ARZ at 01:05. 2nd and 16 at BUF 14 (Shotgun) F.Jackson up the middle to BUF 16 for 2 yards (C.Campbell). Timeout #2 by ARZ at 01:01. 3rd and 14 at BUF 16 F.Jackson up the middle to BUF 23 for 7 yards (D.Washington). Timeout #3 by ARZ at 00:57. 4th and 7 at BUF 23 (Punt formation) S.Powell punts 30 yards to ARZ 47, Center-G.Sanborn, out of bounds. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=321014022&period=4 I think the Brad Smith pass was undebatably the big problem with Chan's play calling.

I think the Paper Bag Era is in effect. This will be the worst defense through 10 weeks of football in NFL history by points per game. Likely by the end of 16 games as well. :bag:

But everyone else is arguing what play Chan should have called, you're taking those comments then discussing what you think Fitz does in certain coverages. Yes Fitz sucks and throwing to the sideline. Yes he becomes predictable in the 4th QTR. Yes he is not an NFL quality QB. Which is exactly why the coach should be taking the ball out of his hand in the 4th and giving it to your RBs that are averaging over 5 yards a carry.

Gailey called pass plays af the end of the Cards game not run plays. That was the problem.

Really so because Chan called a pass play and Fitz followed his coaching on the hot read, "He Checked to that play." Chan should have called a run that is the point. I don't agree with your conjecture that Fitz checked to that play either. It was a bad read by Fitz which is something different than play calling or checking to a different play. It was a bad read, at Pre-Snap you can see that TJ Graham would be wide open and then post snap TJ Graham was wide open. Don't forget 3 punts this season when inside opppents 40. 3 PUNTS! 3X the team said, Hmm should we try a long field goal and get some points on the board. . . Maybe we should go for it our running game is working . . nah lets give the ball to the other team. 2 times the ball went into the end zone which amounted to an 18 Yard Net Punt. You can through an INT on the 4th down play and would have probably netted better for the Bills than a PUNT! A Punt inside the 40!!!!! 3 Times!!!! :bag:

It wasn't forth down. I'm glad he brought up the 4th and 1 field goal as well. CJ Spiller was getting 6+ yards per carry. What does a FG give you in a TD battle? A loss. Where did you hear he checked to a Pass play. They were set up spread, it looked like a pass play was called. I never read anything that says Fitz audible to a pass play? TJ Graham was wide open. I just watched the play again. Your stop watch is broken. He has well over 2 seconds, which is enough in the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012102107/2012/REG7/titans@bills#menu=highlights&tab=recap

1. DC 2. QB 3. LBers 4. Head Coach 5. P 6. Secondary 7. DL 8. WR 9. Nix 10. Ralph Wilson

Holy Goodness that is so accurate. It is completely right on.

Since the 9ers game I see this team more and more like the Washington Generals. They find new and interesting ways to lose. Its actually kind of fun and funny to come up with the scenarios on how they will blow the game. It is inevitable so just try to have some fun with it.

It did not hit the white line. The call wasn't that the ball hit the white line. It was that gilmore hit the ball when he was out ofbounds. Which would make the Ball out of bounds. I agree with the OP Gilmore looked inbounds and that was a clear recovery inbounds. Throw the challenge flag. It is worth the risk for a game ending turnover. That's why you get paid the money to coach. This is an example of when a coaching decision has a direct impact on the outcome of the game. Players do not run over to the sideline when they are lined up to play defense and tell the coach to do their job. Tennessee was smart enough to take advantahe of the Bills stupidity and they ran a relatively quick play.

I think you have a point. It seems very likely we'll be giving up iver 35 to both teams.

Seriously I said the same thing. This guy should be fined 100s of thousands of dollars and kicked out of football. It wasn't just 1 play it was a dozen plays. I've never seen anything like that.

I've got a fever! And the only cure is. . . http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfyV2cPLuFuA

Before the snap it was clear that TJ Graham would be wide open. After the snap TJ graham was wide open. Fitz throws where the Tennessee defense was clearly rolling coverage. INT. A High School QB could see what the defense was doing. TJ graham was wide open. That cost the game. In hindsight and foresight that was a stupid pass. Fitz is incompetent at playing NFL quality QB. If you can't see that you haven't been watching the last 16 + games.

I hate these reactionary posts, but they are clearly not trying to win games anymore.

So??? So, that means you don't trade a First round pick for Dwayne Bowe or Stevie Johnson. How is that confusing?

BoWe is severely overated and has a history of dropsies. No 1st no way. That would set the franchise backwards. That 1st has to be on a QB like Tyler Wilson. FJax, Tjax, and McGee straight up for Bowe with no contract extention would be a dream but obviously KC is focused on the future and future picks.

I appreciate this sentence. There are so many lame posts that fit into this category but they never preface it properly. As you probably already really know there is a higher likelihood that Chan Gaily gets traded than FJax.

He is not, nor ever has been any accurate QB by any measurement or by an eyeball test. You are completely incorrect. I doubt you have actually watched him play. It is an outright lie to make that statement.

I'm not of the mindset to take a step sidewise and very likely backward when the team is still in a viable position to win the division. If you want to give TJax a shot and treat the regular season like the preseason and see what you got, you do that after you're eliminated from the playoffs. If there were any reason to believe there might be an improvement than maybe you switch but there is no logical reason to belive TJax gives you an improvement.

I'd rather we converted TJax to WR. Secretly I'm hoping that is what we have been doing the last 6 weeks.