MartyBall4Buffalo

I was over diy.despair.com and made this http://diy.despair.com/output/poster23065686.jpg

JP Losman had a 3.7 yards per pass average. I repeat 3.7 YARDS PER PASS. No one fears Losman doing anything, unless you happen to be a fan of the Bills.

It's a small sample 2 games the philly game last week, and this game. Yes I'm aware they beat Seattle without Burress. However it's Seattle, and recently Manning has just looked bad. He's been holding the ball longer, and double clutches a lot, then tries to throw into bad spaces. Yes I'm aware he's done this a lot, but he seems to be pressing a little more then usual.

So I'm sitting here watching this game, while studying for an exam tomorrow morning, pondering the question. Talent or coaching which one is more important. I put this out here, because for the last 2 weeks the giants have looked brutal on offense without Plaxico Burress, and even more inept without Brandon Jacobs. Now Coughlin is arguably a good coach, despite what people think of his personality. The Giants seem completely lost on offense.

JP doing what he does. Execution outweighs coaching in this circumstance. This isn't settling for a 47 yard fg to try to win a game. This is trying to get a 1st down to ice the game. Yes they should've just ran it, we all know that. As a 5th year qb you should have enough common sense to protect the ball and eat the sack or throw it the hell away

Exactly. You don't go out of your way to protect a 5th year qb. Losman just sucks at football. The fact we'll never have to watch him play for the Bills again is a small saving grace to this crappy season.

A lot of teams make that kind of call. In our situation it wasnt the best of calls however, this is not one the times it's the coaching staffs fault. It's simply that JP Losman is a !@#$en disgrace to wearing a nfl uniform let alone playing.

This is JP's highlight reel for other teams

13 games into the season and the coaching staff finally figures out our identity

Turk's more impressed with Losman's gaudy yards per pass avg of 3.2

Nice job by Kawika Mitchell to get beat around the edge by Tony Richardson It amazes me that people think this defense is good. Our statistical rankins are a product of the bad offenses we played

Hey man I hope they win, so you can enjoy yourself. I'm pretty much not going to games at the meadowlands for awhile The last time I went there was in 05, when kelly holcomb threw like 4 picks, and last years terrible game, save abram elam knocking out darrelle revis and evans going 85 yards for a td. I would've gone had there been something to play for, but eh This Bills team is grating. I'll watch from home, without the lamenting by Gang green fans.

I was going to go to this game with a bunch of people from work. I ended up selling my tickets, as I have no interest in watching a JP Losman led team get throttled by a underachieving jets team, in front of 70 k jets fans on My birthday when it's likely to be cold and raining. I figured I'm better off served hanging out with some friends and getting drunk inside.

Well the fact they could miss altogether and there's a good chance they do is falling short. Once Brady went down, all expectations were raised for the jets. They're a fa spent team that was looking to compete against the pats and the afc's best. My expectations were lower then what the jets were selling their fanbase. You don't bring in Favre, and spend the way they did to compete for a wc,. Struggling to pass Matt Cassell, while losing to the broncos at home and getting throttled by the 49ers. I'd say that's falling short of expectations.

My expectations were that the bills/jets would be competing for a wc spot (pre brady injury). That they're a team who still has some holes, but was constructed to try to win now. The fact they may miss the playoffs entirely falls on ManHerm as some of my friends who are jet fans call him. Favre isn't going to get any younger, and at times has struggled this year. The jets have been an up and down team. With the team built as is, anything less then winning the east, would be an embarrassment to the organization. They're not set up to be competative for the long term, and once Favre goes, The Dolphins, and yes the Bills will both pass them. The Patriots are by far still the most talented team in the division, and the gift that was awarded on a silver platter, will be a colossal Epic Fail for the Bills and Jets, once Brady returns. Neither The Man Genius, nor Jauron can adjust on the fly, and the flat uninspiring play of their teams reflect their demeanor.

Eric Mangini Example 1a how a poor coach with improved talent, still falls short of expectations

R.I.P To Matt Cassell's dad

People have been used to crap for so long, they actually believe garbage can be good. Schouman is nothing more then an HBack and for christ sake derek fine has what 6 catches on the year? Tight end is a position that has been undervalued by the Bills for years. Look at some of the better qb's around the league. They all have quality te's. Even young qb's. Brady- had Ben Watson Pennington- Fasano Favre- Keller Peyton- Dallas Clark Roethlisberger- Heath Miller Jay Cutler- Tony Scheffler Joe Flacco- Todd Heap Romo- Witten Rivers-Gates Eli- came up with Shockey Gonzalez with the chiefs the list goes on and on. Good te's are used to varying degrees in the progress and continued development of young qb's as well as a safety net for veteran quarterbacks. The importance of a good te can't be understated. Good te's improve short yardage/redzone offense. If you have a te with exceptional quickness you can work the seems. With young qb's they become a security valve, until the qb learns to read nfl defenses, and become better aquainted with his wr's. A good te could do wonders for taking pressure off Lee Evans, as well as being a consistent option for Edwards in the future. Derek Schouman is not the answer. The problem is Bills fans wouldn't know wtf a good te looks like, cause we've never been fortunate enough to have one

I blame myself. I thought about buying an Edwards jersey the day before the cards game. I decided not to last minute we lost. Then I did buy it after the SD game, and well yeah.

I enjoy watching the Eagles. Westbrook and Dawkins are my 2 favorite non Bills players. Watching DeSean Jackson is like watching Roscoe Parrish if he was ya know a good wr.

There's been some decent white wr's as of late, but white rb's. I can fully understand why people scoff at it. I'm white and mention the idea of a white rb that starts for your team, like people around here wanted to draft brian leonhard for, and I'll scoff at it. Ideally I can care less what race a guy is, but there hasn't been a productive starting white tailback in decades. Kelsay and Denney got passes around here for a loooooong time, and people were blind to their lack of talent. Some even going as far as comparing our high motor trio to the dends for the giants. Justifying Kelsays contract to that of Justin Tuck. Whether it's a race issue or the fact he was drafted here I dunno. There does seem to be a soft spot for good old boys.

I didnt catch the story, but I heard it was something like If the jets don't make the postseason there's a possibility they'll go after Cowher. For as much as everyone here complains about Jauron Eric Mangini is possibly just as inept at in game decisions.

I have fond memories of watching the 05 All High Motor dline of Aaron Schobel/Justin Bannan/Tiny tim anderson/Chris Kelsay. We should've never let him walk.

Better off going with the Bengals. They at least have a quarterback. You know if you became a Lions fan, they would go out and sign JP Losman.