BF_in_Indiana

That was hardly a hard foul. He slapped his damn arm going up. I like that mentality, there is no such thing as garbage time. You play hard until it's over. Wallace is a punk and started the whole fiasco by inciting the fans with his nonsense.

It's not the object itself, it's the intent. It's just like if someone shoved you. Someone shoving you isn't going to cause you great harm, but the intent is of a dangerous nature.

Too bad for Ben Wallace? He's the piece of stevestojan that started it.

The NBA is in a no win situation. They can't give their players a free pass because they would take a huge beating from the press. They also don't want to say their guys are in the wrong, because then you are saying "sue us". It's just a tough situation. My name is Brandon.

It's to be expected, it's stevestojan but to be expected. The only one to be suspended should be the man that started it all, Wallace.

Well said.

It just doesn't seem that complicated to me. I wouldn't allow someone to do that to me and neither should Artest.

I don't want to fight you, I said I would DISCUSS this in person with you.

Well I agree with you on points one and two. Actually the foul on Wallace wasn't very hard at all, even the announcers said he should have just went and shot his damn free throws. The Pistons and their fans are the ones to blame here.

I've been in plenty of fights. Yeah they are scary, that doesn't mean I still wouldn't have beaten the hell out of that guy like Artest did last night if provoked with a clear cut case of assault like he was.

Like I said, if you believe that at face value you also believe cows fly. You don't think that idiot sees a chance at millions of dollars? Come on.

I would be more then happy to discuss this in person.

What the hell do you think he's going to say? "Yeah I did it and started a riot." If you believe that you believe cows fly.

He's lucky he didn't get the stevestojan kicked out of him? I think it's the other way around. More of those thugs are lucky they didn't get the stevestojan beat out of them!!!!

If I was a fan of any team but the Pistons I would feel the same way.

Let's be fair here for a second. Ron Artest tackled that punk. He didn't even punch him. He didn't start throwing punches until others punched him. Sometimes you have to do things the hard way, and that punk fan found out what the hard way was last night.

Oh yeah I have to say something real quick. I love how everyone that disagrees with Artest keeps saying "16 year old" trying to swing people to their side. That guy was not 16 years old. Some Piston thug board post says he was 16 so that makes it fact? NO ONE on the television has stated this, so please stop with this nonsense.

Hell they may kick my ass, that doesn't mean I won't start swinging.

I don't think I said we were going to win the title, just stated facts. We kicked their asses all over the Palace LITERALLY last night.

Want me to just send you the end of the game and the ESPN News section on it? It was a beatdown the likes of which I've never seen.

It was wrong the first time and it's wrong this time too. Like I said, some fool throws a beer on me and it's on. I think I will go buy an Artest jersey TODAY.

I wouldn't mind seeing it a few more times. Teams are going to think twice now before they mess with the Bad Boys. Their fans might take a beating as well as they do.

It doesn't really matter, you said Artest didn't have the right to defend himself.

That's beautiful and so true.

How I've reacted to it isn't much different then the people at ESPN. Ron Artest had every right to defend himself and did so. Jackson came into the stands as the fight was esculating and defended his teammate. There were Pistons trying to get into the crowd too and I don't think they were going in there to fight the Pacers players. The Pistons and their fans were a disgrace last night. Did I mention we kicked their asses both on and off the court? Yeah I did, nevermind.