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I don't believe this at all. Name these QBs, because I can't think of one. This is why I wished the Bills didn't sign Taylor. I think fans are feeling satisfied at the QB position, when there's a really bad QB situation that's only going to get twice as worse once the aging QBs retire the next two years and this franchise is now fighting with 10-12 NFL teams looking for a franchise QB instead of the normal 6.

Tyrod Taylor isn’t a franchise QB. So the greatest need for the Buffalo Bills is at QB. Unless your goal is to just be ok, be “in the hunt”. If that’s your goal, then why worry about a back up QB? It’s not like you’re trying to win a Superbowl anyways. Your roll in the league is to be “in the hunt” and just miss out in the final weeks, then go away and let the teams with real NFL QBs play for the championship.

I'm actually starting to worry that the either Saints or Cardinals might trade ahead of the Bills and pick Mahomes (if the Bills were wanting to take Mahomes at #10). At that point it wasn't meant to be and move on to plan B, hope Cardale makes dramatic progress, and watch the college QBs in the coming season with great interest. I wouldn't mind plan B being trading back in the first till you get a 1st rd pick in 2018 which looks like it might be a great QB class.

This reply was MONEY. Also, many said Russell Wilson was too short. It's foolish to dismiss QBs just because the group thinking draft pundits believe in painting with broad bushes. If a QB has shown he can play, he can play regardless of what they say about a system or measurables.

Taylor Virginia Tech stats - 49 games / 44 TDs / 7017 yards / 57% comp / 20 INT / 137 rating Mahomes Texas Tech stats - 32 games / 93 TDs / 11252 yards / 64% comp / 29 INT / 152 rating Just thought I'd compare the two players as QBs coming out of college. Taylor is an athlete with a decent arm playing QB, he's unfortunately hit his ceiling (which btw is impressive from where he was picked in the draft). Mahomes is the "real deal" as a QB, with a great arm. The Bills will continue to be a nothing franchise until they start drafting QBs (like Mahomes) with great talent and hitting on one. An elite TE (or whatever) will not fix this franchise no matter how elite the player is. The Bills need to be laser focused on finding their future franchise QB.

For those that think Mahomes is a reach at #10, he's already being talked about a few spots down at the Cards pick (he also just met with the Saints)... http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2017/3/24/15043782/does-the-arizona-cardinals-visit-with-patrick-mahomes-mean-anything "Could the Cardinals’ top brass be looking at life after Carson Palmer with the 13th pick?"

I found a twitter site with stat charts and Mahomes looks much better on accuracy with the long ball and under pressure. Some of the differences are surprisingly in Mahomes' favor. Now I know that Watson faced better competition, but when you consider that Mahomes throws with much more velocity than Watson, it's hard for me to put Watson ahead of Mahomes in terms of who's the better QB prospect in the NFL. There's a lot of stuff here on many QB prospects... https://twitter.com/NFLFilmStudy/status/818697227485007872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Thinking too many fans here (and the media for that matter) are discounting the very real possibility that Whaley goes QB. This is a team without a leader, without an identity, without a culture of winning, without a face of the organization, and without a viable franchise QB for the long term future. Adding to that, you have a GM in his fourth year who missed not drafting either Carr or Prescott. He gets a pass with Carr, but they let another team pick Prescott ahead of them by many accounts. If not for Whaley’s dealing away their fourth, Prescott would have been a Bill. Then he grudgingly brings back Tyrod for the new head coach under a contract that screams “bridge” QB. This landscape is rife with the prospect of Whaley picking HIS preferred highly ranked QB prospect at #10.

Get real, Mahomes isn't getting past the Texans at #25. The Bills will end up looking stupid (down the road) if they pass on him at #10. He's the best QB prospect in this draft and it's not close.

If you can't beat out Marquise Williams, you can't be considered a good QB prospect. It's as simple as that.

Not sure what you're going by, but from what I've read this is not the case at all. From the NFL.com site: "NFL COMPARISON Brock Osweiler" Not accurate, not mobile, not good under pressure, not good with the deep ball. 65% of passes were inside 10 yards. Stay away from this guy!

Mahomes is better than Trubisky at the deep ball, better under pressure, better on 3rd and 4th downs, and better running with the football. Mahomes is Favre-like, Trubisky is Hasselback-like. I simply don't believe or understand the QB rankings this year.

Don't worry, Whaley knows how to find good CBs later on in the draft. He's not burning a 1st round pick on a CB for that reason alone.

This is the main reason I want the Bills to pick Mahomes at #10. As big and huge Bills fans think of 1st round picks, not one has turned the franchise around since the Kelly days. It never happens. Yes, they failed with the Manuel 1st round QB pick...but they need to try again with Mahomes. I never heard anyone compare Manuel to Favre or Stafford. That's the ceiling some are talking about with the "boom or bust" pick of Mahomes. I'd rather have a potential boom/bust Favre type of QB on the bench, than to have a great TE or CB or WR prospect. Because nothing ever will change until they find a QB and they won't find a QB with a higher ceiling in this draft. He can sit the year and develop, and take over in 2018. How exciting would that be Bills fans? BTW, if Cardale Jones starts showing himself as real starter material in preseason games, then you have a potential high draft pick coming back to you down the road through a trade, be it Jones or Mahomes.

Want- Mahomes Dont Want- Trubisky Dark Horse- Melifonwu Think- Davis (I'm cool with this pick)

Over analysis, which is not allowing you to see the forrest through the trees. The Bills have a QB problem, they've had one for about 20 years. Tyrod Taylor is yet another Fitzpatrick, Orton, ect...

What's Gilmore done for us? Watson? Dareus? Lawson? Did they turn the Bills franchise around? Holding 1st round picks in the highest of high standards is a fools game when you don't have a QB, because it's so rare that you get that generational guy like Von Miller, JJ Watt, ect... 1st round players are more solid to very good players who come cheap for a few years than franchise changers. It's with this reasoning that you start taking chances by going QB at #10. If he is slow to develop then take another one in 2018 in the 1st round. It's the only way to solve the problem since Kelly left. While it may be frustrating, it's really the only realistic way to be on the fast track to solving the QB problem.

The Bills don't have a franchise QB, and this is Whaley's first opportunity to take one in the first round as a GM. Whaley didn't even want Taylor, he brought him back for new the head coach. The HC got Taylor and Whaley's going QB with the first pick. #2 WR is something you can get with the 2nd or 3rd rd pick, or sign a vet like Victor Cruz as a one year stop gap.

Wilson was way too short, Derrick was David's brother, Prescott was another Tebow. There's always reasons like...Mahomes is from the "Air Raid" system! If you have feeling the guy is special and he can become a franchise QB, don't wait...take him with your first pick. Be bold, be brave!

Wilson, Carr and Prescott say hello. If there's one thing you can completely ignore, it's the draft "experts" opinions on who the best QB prospects are.

The point of this thread is wrong. It's not about the "fastest" way, it's about finding the franchise QB. You draft either Mahomes or Watson at #10, then draft the best receiving threat in the second round (TE or WR), then draft a DB in the third (Whaley has a knack for finding them in the later rounds). Sit the rookie QB for the full season and let him develop. After the year, if the rookie QB isn't providing a sense of security that he'll be the answer then you try again and draft another QB in the 1st round in 2018. Glimore's gone, Watkins is always hurt, Dareus has issues...this team needs to stop fiddling around the edges and treating 1st round picks like they're golden. Who cares that they tried with Manuel, try again and keep trying. After they find the franchise QB, then they can talk about drafting elite players in the first round to complement him, start making the playoffs and becoming a superbowl contender again.

Scouts and analysts routinely get the QB position wrong. It's amazing you're hanging your hat on them and propping them up as if they have a good track record. Dak Prescott was completely off the radar last year by all of these scouts and analysts you're touting. These same scouts and analysts (dare we say experts? LOL) rated Derrick Carr as the 4th QB (sometimes 3rd) behind Bortles, Manziel and Bridgewater. You have no ground to stand on here. If the Bills pass on Mahomes at #10, he will go to another team before their 2nd round pick, and eventually go down in Bills lore as another member of the “Franchise QBs Who Got Away Club” behind Wilson and Prescott.

Tyrod Taylor fans upon hearing that he signed a renegotiated contract with the Bills… “Happy days are here again, the skies above are clear again…” Justin Hunter after signing with Roethlisberger's team… “Happy days are here again, the skies above are clear again…”

Except, you’re not on the hook for a "Sam Bradford" rookie contract and the QB position is 100 times more important than any other position on the team. Because of these facts, it should be a completely acceptable practice to overdraft (by 15 picks) the QB you want at #10, who you know won’t be there at your next pick.

The Bills haven’t had a “big picture” guy. The guy who takes his nose out of the tiny details and can pinpoint THE #1 PROBLEM. Here’s a “big picture” example…Why is it ok for the Texans to draft Mahomes at #25 (tons of mocks have this), but the Bills would be complete fools to do so at #10? 1. One team gets their franchise QB because his value starts to get slotted around their pick. 2. The other team (which is just as desperate lacking a franchise long term QB), drafts a safety or wide receiver. Yet they still don’t have their answer to the franchise QB solution. Given how monumentally important the QB position is in the NFL. In what world does this seem logical? Smart?